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Can I just go on the record to say you're both wrong?
Sting isn't better than Entwistle but he's not an average bassist either.
Though in Big3's defence I think he's only talking in terms of preference.
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To say that all Entwistle did was go off on a tangent is stupid. For one thing, he was already competing with Keith Moon's drumming, Townshend's guitars (and later on synths) and Daltrey's vocals, so honestly play lead bass in The Who was a backing track anywhere else. Yes, he did shine through a lot, but he did just about everything else there is to playing the bass incredibly well.
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Eh. Big3 hates on prog rock a lot and he seems to hate musicians who are very technical. But The Police WERE technical, just because they didn't play swedish speed metal and because they associated themselves with new wave didn't mean they were just some kids who picked up their instruments because of The Sex Pistols, they all had previous experience with prog and jazz music and they were way more skilled than the majority of british bands who came around in the punk era.
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Except Van Halen is terrible.
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Which is to have decent talent but not as much as the best bass players ever. Some of these guys were out of the way, just like Sting, but did a better job of it.
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Eh, you're going by technical skill and he isn't. And again you're both wrong. There's many styles to bass playing, I don't think less technical players are automatically better like Big3 but I don't think more technical players are automatically better like you.
Entwistle and Sting really can't be compared, their styles and methods are completely different. Entwistle isn't even THAT skilled technically it's just his influence is unmatched in popular music with the exception of James Jamerson, there are various more technical players than him but they aren't greater than him because they weren't as influencial or groundbreaking.
And thus not every player who is more technically capable than Sting is automatically better. Sting compensates for his lack of virtuosity by having his own style, yeah it's clear what his influences are, but back then no other player really sounded like him.
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Except I'm comparing the quality of their play, not the style.
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And what's the point? Big3 never said Sting was a more capable player than Entwistle so why even argue about it?
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And now you're assuming the only guy to ever play really loud bass is Entwistle.
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I think he's pretty aware that's not the case.
Anyway, I do hate it when people think bass players are not very important and that they shouldn't take take advantage of their abillity. But what Big3 doesn't seem to understand is that Sting's abillity IS quite present, and what you don't understand is that avoiding flashy bass solos doesn't equal lack of skill.