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Old 07-03-2010, 11:31 AM   #100 (permalink)
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Yeah well comparing someone to a homophobe just because they can't understand a certain lifestyle is jumping to ridiculous conclusions.

I mean, I don't understand neo nazi culture and if that puts my line of logic on terms with a homophobe then so be it.

Not comparing trannies to nazis but I think you understand that what I'm trying to say is hating something and simply not understanding the appeal of something shouldn't be equated with each other. Glass finds it morally wrong and I can really understand why she feels that way but that doesn't mean she feels transexuals should be denied any rights.
We're talking about two different things here. Not understanding (although I don't see the difficulty in understanding that other people might not think and feel as you do) and finding something morally wrong are two different things. Besides, when you say you don't understand homosexuality, I'll assume you mean you have no inclination towards same-sex attraction yourself, because I don't see what's difficult to understand about two people being attracted to each other. I've never been mystified by heterosexuality. It's there, it exists, I don't share the same feelings but I have no problem accepting their existence as a fact.

And there's a thin line between finding something morally wrong and denying someone their rights. Again, I'll use a parallel with homosexuality, the majority of people who find homosexuality morally reprehensible also feel they should limit the rights of homosexuals. If you get enough people who find a certain behavior or characteristic wrong, you'll end up with them wanting to take action. And all because some people seem unable to understand the simplest of things, that what is right for you may not apply to someone else. And, since you've drawn the nazi parallel, the deciding factor here should be whether or not it's hurting anyone. Which clearly transitioning from one gender to another is not, on the contrary.


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Like I said some people do oppose plastic surgery for various reasons.

Me? I think people have a right to do whatever they want with their bodies if it makes them feel better. But I do think people nowadays have a habit of jumping to making drastic changes based on emotional impulses and I just hope they don't regret these choices in the future.

I just don't know why it's so hard to accept why a guy would have trouble with the idea of other guys cutting their wangs off.

I mean by doing it you're denying yourself the abillity to feel sexual pleasure ever again. Surely one day we'll have technology where doctors can actually replace your junk with a fully functional vagina complete with a synthetic nervous system and that will be a great day for tannies indeed but in the meantime there's no way to make a "true" transgender transition and I just don't think cutting your organs off is worth the effort because all that will be left is a stump where they used to be. What's the point?

The only good reasons I can think of are aesthetics and to cut off the testosterone supply. But still our technology is too limited and you can only make it half way there so why bother? Maybe if you're asexual but most trannies don't seem to be. At this point in time man cannot truly become female so why not settle with having the one sexual organ you were born with instead of giving it up without getting anything in return?
I think it's unfortunate that the technology in this area is not advanced enough to make a full transition (including ovaries and what not), but I'd gather most transsexuals are willing to cope with the shortcomings. Syncing their minds with their bodies, at least to a certain degree, seems to be more important than feeling sexual pleasure (although as I gather M2F transgenders can still feel sexual pleasure seeing as how the procedure basically inverts the penis and preserves the nerve endings).
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