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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
For one thing, its been researched. All social sciences are victims of their own sample size. And as someone (noise maybe) has already pointed out, Rape is a social construct. There's not really any biological basis for rape. When cavemen were "raping" people, that was just business as usual; Like it, don't like it - that's what it was.
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Ehf, the argument has it's basis in modern biology, not social sciences. You seem to be confident in a different idea that explains what rape is and where the behaviour comes from, but there is sound biological consistent theory which can explain perfectly well why rape could be a strategy. Your post makes it painfully clear you don't know/understand any of the arguments based on that theory.
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Also, as far as the "spread your seed" argument - its got very little to do with breeding. I think a rapist 9 times out of 10 would prefer not to have a child. If it was kids he were after there would always be sperm donation, and with the internet out there now anyone who simply wanted to get married has far greater options.
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When, in biology, people write stuff like a want to reproduce, what they mean is usually not a conscious desire to make babies. Evolution doesn't necessarily work with a desire for offspring, a want to have sexual gratification may produce the same end result.
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But this assumes there's rational thought in a Rapist. First of all, I think the statistics coming back from rapes indicate that 90% are of known relation. That is to say that a solid majority aren't unknown strangers in dark alleyways. A child in this situation is verifiable proof that a rape has occurred. No rapist wants to be a rapist, they just want to ****/torture/get "close" with (in their own dementia) a particular person.
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If you read my last post, you will see me mention at first proximate and ultimate reasons. Here you are referring to a proximate reason for rape, but the thread is really about ultimate reasons.
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In fact almost every case of pedophilia is rape. There is little possibility that those children are of child bearing age, and furthermore they are children themselves. If you were searching for a link, and its a long shot, you'd have to conclude that this only had to do with breeding because the carrot in this carrot-and-stick operation is the driving force (i.e. sexual pleasure). But there isn't, in my estimation, a strong desire to carry on your breeding cycle.
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Carrot at the end of a stick motivation works just fine in evolution. Also, although not really relevant to the discussion, I think most sex between adults and minors is consensual in the way that the adult manipulates the minor to agree to have sex. Possibly, a definition of or differentiations between different kinds of "rape" would be useful to the discussion, f.ex "violent rape" or "date rape".