Originally Posted by phoenixflames

I can see why people like them and why people dislike them. I have had some limited exposure to them and their music (including watching the "Cliff 'Em All" video), and I'm just not impressed. I have one of their CD's (the Black Album), but only because I found it in a dumpster. To me they seem like one of those bands that have just lived too long and are seemingly in it for the money.