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Originally Posted by adidasss
Yeah, but on both accounts, time and space, you come to the conclusion that there was an infinite something which came out of the infinite something. And it's been there forever. My time and space bound brain can't really rap around it, I need an end and a begging to make sense of anything and there doesn't appear to be one logically.
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No, I was trying to say that there could be an infinite state being composed of primal energy/potential that didn't have to come from anywhere at all... that just "is" and exists that way in its natural state, and has infinite spacial dimensions. It couldn't be contained in anything because there is nothing outside it.... so it would have to be infinite. Think of it in terms of this "state of energy" being infinity itself. And think of infinity as being the point at which our 3 dimensional understanding of space becomes irrelevant.
You would have to assume that since something can't come from nothing, that "nothing" is actually something that simply changed form in a lot of fundamental ways. And there can't be an ultimate "outside". So somewhere in this infinite state of potential matter, a change happens at some tiny point, giving birth to a finite, but expanding change of physical state which we know as our spatially constructed universe and containing matter that built the stuff inside it. For as long as the universe would be contained inside this infinite state, the universe could not be infinite in terms of our dimensional constraints, regardless of how long or wide the expansion became. It would only get larger in relation to ourselves. The paradox to this is that would only be true if you were able to somehow fly to the edge of the universe and catch up with the expansion... so effectively, to us, the universe may as well be infinite.
Of course, these are all simply ideas I'm jamming off the top of my head, but I'm really interested in this stuff and it's something I constantly think about. I'm definitely down for refining ideas.