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Old 11-20-2010, 02:50 PM   #813 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
I know you are playing devils advocate but I see way too many arguments using examples of hypothetical situations and just going down the slippery slope of things... Yes, if I were a dog, I'd probably sniff your ass, but I AM NOT A DOG SO WHO CARES. And of course I don't support wolves attacking and killing people. I hope if they attack, someone has a gun and kills them.
The point I was trying to make about how life would change if you were a dog was this:

If you were a dog, your experience of life would still have value to YOU. No, you couldn't type out your ideas, but you would be surrounded by wonderful, interesting smells that we humans are incapable of appreciating as much as you could if you were a dog. Your reality as a dog would be different than your reality experienced as a human, but not of less VALUE. In other words, you do not have to understand something (such as life) intellectually in order to appreciate it.

But since you don't like hypotheticals, here is some reality for you.

This first video of a pig farm in Spain explains several reasons I feel eating meat is ethically murder. Raising animals to kill them involves people not just killing animals, but also often depriving them of their sanity and chance for freedom of choice, mental stimulation, and a normal family life. The final scene shows how people bludgeon or "thump" piglets to death...a completely legal and common practice in the U.S.



The second video shows the poor conditions in which many pigs are raised in the European Union, which is supposed to have much better humane standards than the U.S.:



Finally, this third video shows a pig playing with a ball...a simple toy pigs enjoy but people rarely give to them when raising them with the intent to kill. Pigs are very intelligent, social, curious animals, but humans usually deprive them of the chance to experience many of life's simple delights:

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If a chicken was smart enough to be able to speak English and run in a geometric pattern, then I think it should be smart enough to dial 911 (999) before getting the axe, and scream to the operator, "Something must be done! Something must be done!"
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