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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
To be fair to Zaqarbal he could have posted a picture of Courtney Love rather than Beth Ditto and his point would have been exactly the same.
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No, it wouldn't, because Courtney Love's body shape is generally considered 'socially acceptable' by the general public, regardless of what they think of her personality, parenting skills or musical talent. His point in posting comparison pictures, as he's done again above, is to showcase his belief that thinner women are 'more attractive' in comparison to Beth Ditto simply because they have 'socially acceptable' body shapes, according to the popular media and general public. He's not expressing anything new here. We all know that thinner female body shapes are the preferred social paradigm, as witnessed by the body shapes of women on every magazine cover on the newsstands, in popular television and film. Did Zaq actually assume that this is a surprise to fat people?
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Originally Posted by Paloma
Oh don't give me that bull****, I'm a ****ing card carrying feminist and get off your high horse on educating anyone. You are not going to educate anyone on fat acceptance and on the pits shaving thing, I really do not give a damn what you do with your body hair, I was merely being flippant.
I don't care if she loses her autonomy or whatever bull**** you are parroting, anyone could look at her and see all that lard is not healthy! She doesn't appear to have any muscle tone or anything. It's all blubber. I'm sorry if you think that's based on "my own issues and fears of being fat". I once was overweight, so I know how it is.
It's funny though, you call me out on "making assumptions" and turn around and do the exact same thing.
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Hon, I've made no assumptions about you that aren't already obvious. Your sizeism is very apparent based on the things you've written here. I assume your weight loss has made you happier and for that I'm glad. But rather than work towards creating a social environment where people of all sizes and shapes can feel accepted, appreciated, understood and loved, you continue to show hatred for fat people by making assumptions about their health and not allowing them the autonomy to speak for themselves, should they choose to. Again, you profess knowledge of Beth's health without ever having seen her medical records. Your assumption that she's "not healthy" is based on your assessment of her appearance alone ("it's all blubber," "no muscle tone," "all that lard"). It's unfortunate that you bring your sizeism here, but not that surprising to me. Sizeism is the last acceptable prejudice and not one that's easily eradicated. I've been working on it for the past 10 years.
At any rate, I've said what I need to say about the subject. I'm sure you'll continue the argument since you seem determined to express and spread your fat hate. Just know that you're not saying anything new, nothing that fat people haven't heard before. And in my case, it will fall on deaf ears, not gain you any respect in my eyes, and continue to showcase your sizeist attitude.