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Originally Posted by Dirty
Had a good laugh at the bolded part.  But I respect your opinion, even though it differs from mostly everyone who listens to a lot of hip hop.
You can stop acting like I'm not 'getting it' though. I understand what you are saying. She isn't trying to be the world's greatest singer. And she has certainly succeeded in that aspect. I understand she is making music that's appealing in this pop culture... I just don't respect her talent. Well, lack thereof. Nothing she does impresses me. Just crappy talking over a party beat with a lethal dosage of autotune and a dirty party girl image. She's selling albums, good for her. But she just doesn't have any real skill. I think pop stars like Rhianna and Katy Perry are a million times more talented and I respect their music much more. |
They are all pretty talentless. I have a friend who had an internship at electric ladyland. Rihanna and kanye came in to cut some track. She started her song. She was off key, missing notes, not awful but nothing special. They stopped her mid track and said "sorry. forgot to turn the auto-tune on." turned it on and off they went again.
I always have arguments with my friends because I dis-like beyonce. "She has an AMAZING voice," they always tell me and I always say "yeah, she does, but I haven't heard her sing a song that I liked, apart from maybe a cover or two and her songs in dreamgirls.
Pop divas always get judged by their voices and not their music for some stupid freaking reason. Good voices, even phenomenal voices, are not that hard to come by. We don't see them that often because they need to be part of either a very attractive package (beyonce) or a very ugly one (susan boyle). It's bull if you ask me.
Rihanna and ke$ha make music that I like but would not call good music. Katy perry makes music, I guess. There is so much bull in the politics of popular music today anyways that it is pointless to argue. There is no "good" only "who has the most money?"
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Originally Posted by Dirty
Nas doesn't sing, he's a rapper. And the album he made in 1994 is pretty widely regarded as the best rap album ever so....
I know what Kesha is trying to do. I just don't think she is talented whatsoever. Like I said, she can't sing or write good lyrics... All she can really do is talk over a party beat and have a dirty girl image that looks like she threw her outfits together with a $10 budget trip to Walmart. She just has no talent at all, just some nice beats thrown behind her crappy talk-rap or whatever you wanna call her vocals
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What's wrong with that? Who ever said that she was "good" or "talented"? I hit bars and clubs a lot and love the ke$ha singles when they come on, don't they need to make music for that scene? Did she try to write "good" lyrics? and what are "good" lyrics? I think the lyrics to tik tok are great, the song is not good but I love it. I think people need to stop getting so pissed about the artists and start getting angry at people. But people haven't changed. Even oscar wilde in an essay titled "The soul of man (under socialism)" says that "the arts that have escaped best are the arts in which the public take no interest" And later "Any attempt to extend the subject-matter of art is extremely distasteful to the public; and yet the vitality and progress of art depend in a large measure on the continual extension of subject matter... Art is Individualism, and Individualism is a disturbing and disintegrating force." My point is, don't be pissed at the ****ty art. It is pointless, be pissed at the moronic masses that allow such art to be.
"The public has always , and in every age, been badly brought up. They are continually asking Art to be popular, to please their want of taste, to flatter their absurd vanity, to tell them what they have been told before, to show them what they ought to be tired of seeing, to amuse them when they feel heavy after eating too much, and to distract their thoughts when they are wearied of their own stupidity. Now Art should never try to be popular. The public should try to make itself artistic."