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Originally Posted by Pedestrian
For anarchy to be successful it would mean giving up every modern comfort from the internet to toiletries to succeed, and I don't think a single anarchist here has considered this or would be willing to go through with it.
The very existence of products and services creates a need for structured trade that can't possibly be waved away with notions like "sharing is caring". There are jobs in our societies which are so difficult, disgusting, or dangerous that nobody would willingly undertake them without a system of compensation. Ask yourself, would you be willing to unblock the sewers of America for the greater good?
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To be fair, I believe that at least anarcho-capitalists and maybe even mutualists are well aware of the necessity of trade.
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Originally Posted by Pedestrian
I think it was Tore who said complete anarchy isn't even natural in the animal kingdom, which is one of the best points I've seen made. Every animal from horses to baboons has a social structure, a hierarchy with leaders, and followers, and, yes, punishments. Perhaps anarchy had potential back when we were still microbes multiplying in the sea, but I think that anybody who believes it is possible now either hasn't thought it through very well, or is hopelessly quixotic about the human species.
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Actually, the social behavior of animals is probably closer to anarchy than to any other political system. The concept of punishment for wrongdoings is not abolished, only moved from a central insitution with a fixed set of rules down to the civil society which in turn opens for arbitrary jurisdictions based on the preferences of the stronger ones. Animals's reactions to wrongdoings among the colony is purely in instinctive and if you're the weaker individual you're probably doomed, whereas humans have the ability to approach such things in a conceptual way through wich we can base our desicions on reason instead of animal-like instinct. All in all, transcendental darwinism vs. reason.
But if we necessarily have to embrace anarchy, we could at least do it in a
cool way.