As far as those good rappers are concerned, take a look at guys like Nas, KRS One, Ghostface Killah, Scarface, Raekwon, Kurupt, Dead Prez, Talib Kweli, Dilated Peoples, 8ball, tech n9ne, etc. Most of them have their brief "bitches and hoes" moments, but are also well established lyricists in the rap game, and also achieve some sort of commercial success (to an extent). If you focus on one sector of any given genre, anything can look bad. For example, take the Indie Forum. A guest coming by seeing the same old threads on Bloc Party, Hot Hot Heat, The Bravery, The Killers- sh*t, you can say Indie needs a clean up. Or the rock forum, with people STILL talking about SOAD and Slipknot all day. I can go on for hours.
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