It's been a very long since I've had that kind of conversation with anyone but I do remember one of my college roommates telling me once when I was listening to Mr. Bungle that "Ma Meeshka Mow Skowz" was just noise.
I've never understood people who say things like that. Whether you like that particular song or not it's pretty hard to deny that "Ma Meeshka Mow Skowz" has rhythm, melody and harmony, all of the requirements for even the strictest definition of music.
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