First of all I hate every band you mentioned in 1990. Second of all, YOU SKIPPED A WHOLE F**KIN DECADE!!! Which was the decade in which I got in to music and the decade from which most of the music I listen to comes from. Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down, Stone Temple Pilots, The Offspring, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones (who had a lot more good music than just "Impression that I Get"), old Weezer, old Green Day, Queens of the Stone Age, and even bands that I don't care for that much like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and even some Dave Mathews (and trust me I'm NOT a DMB fan), it's all a lot better than any thing that came the 10 years previous to Nirvana. The 90's rocked! But that's just my opinion.

If you really think that, you need to check out some of the good music from the 80s. The decade wasn't all about hair bands. Groups like The Pixies, Husker Du, Swans, Sonic Youth, Fugazi, Godflesh, Jane's Addiction, The Red Hot Chili Peppers (who did most of their best stuff in the 80s) and Killing Joke (who Nirvana stole the melody of "Come As You Are" from) among many, many others established sounds that Nirvana simply followed.

The 80s had plenty of good bands too, the Smiths, Joy Division, Fugazi, Dinosaur Jr, Tom Waits, etc. I don't feel like listing anymore, but I think those bands are better than all those crappy rock bands like the Red Hot Chili Peppers and System of a Down.

edit: I got beat to it <.<

Damn, how could I forget Joy Division, the Smiths and Tom Waits' best period? Good call on those, Crowquill!

Also, RapSucks, you mention The Mighty Mighty Bosstones as a great 90s band but they actually started in the 80s and released one of their best albums in '89.

I think all decades have good music, but it's not generally found in the top 10.

You need to stick around this place, we need good posters.

Thanks! I just came across this place by complete accident looking for something else. But I've wanted to find a board like this for ages.

Sorry but I disagree about RHCP. I guess I'm not funky enough.

Also, I wasn't listening to the radio in the 80's because I was under 6 years old, but how many of those bands got radio play? I'm talking about mainstream music, that's what Nevermind was and what it primarily affected. (Although underground punk would not be as popular today if Nirvana didn't come along.) Underground music is a whole different issue.

And if I hear "Jane Says" one more time in my life I may kill myself!!! Definitely one of the worst (most annoying) songs I've ever heard.

I have Devil's Night Out and love it. Again, Mainstream vs. Underground!!! I don't want to give the impression that I only listen to radio music because I don't, but Nirvana was mainstream music and primarily affected mainstream music.

I'd honestly rather hear Mexican Radio or Girls Just Want to Have Fun over Smells Like Teen Spirit or Jeremy anyday. I'd even consider the 80s mainstream music better.

I don't know how much radio play those bands got because I wasn't even born yet, but I imagine the Smiths got quite a bit.

Wow, you just called the Red Hot Chili Peppers a crappy rock band. That shows how much you know about music you f**king retard. I can understand if they don't agree with your tastes, but a crappy rock band?!?!?!

1. Drop it on the name calling.
2. I do know quite a bit about music.
3. Yes, I think they're a crappy rock band. They were okay before they started watering down their music and making annoying anthems for rock radio and watered down rock 'ballads'. I don't think Blood Sugar Sex Magik or Californication are good albums and the last one was just awful.

I'm sorry, but I'd take grunge and the rise of alternative metal over hair metal and new wave any day.

What I like about their 80s stuff is actually the punkishness. They were so much more fun back then. I remember being so disappointed when "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" came out.

Jane's Addiction, The Pixies, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Joy Division, The Smiths and Killing Joke got an fair amount of radio play. As did, of course bands, like REM and U2 (yes, believe it or not, they were once really good bands).

And let's face it, most of what was on the radio in the 90s was crap like Color Me Bad and Boyz II Men. The bands you're talking about were mostly relegated to the one rock station in town.

I could see how someone could get tired of that song. But "Jane Says" isn't the end-all be-all of Jane's Addiction any more that "Under the Bridge" is the end-all be-all of the Chili Peppers.

But would you take grunge and the rise of alternative metal over punk, postpunk, hardcore, grindcore, thrash, death metal, industrial, goth and the rise of noise?

True and did Nirvana influence them? No. Just like The Beatles didn't influence Disco. I said, in my opinion Nirvana saved music, and what I meant by that is they gave me something to listen to. Not rid the world of bad music. And man am glad I didn't have to listen to Boyz II Men.

Actually I think one could make an argument that The Beatles were a pretty big influence on the Bee Gees. Similarly, Niravana influenced assorted 90s pop crap like Alanis Morissett.

Well, I'm glad they gave you something good to listen to. They weren't a bad band just, from my perspective at the time, not anything particularly new. There were already plenty of good rock bands around at the time. All that happened when Nirvana became big was that all the jocks in my school stopped listening to hair metal and started listening to grunge. No biggie one way or the other for me. The people who were big musicheads just continued listening to the same stuff we were already listening to.

Heh-heh. That's because, unlike me, you weren't in high school in the early 90s. :)

As far as grindcore, trash, and death metal go, I could do without them, but as has been said, we're talking about popular music here. Plus, the nineties gave us shoegaze, noise pop, math rock, trip-hop, the golden age of rap, post-rock, dark ambient, lots of noise rock, etc.

I'd say that's a stretch.

If i'm comparing music now to what it was like pre Nirvana I don't need to reference the 90s , You said they changed music YOU back it up. Mentioning a few stadium rock bands from the mid 90s proves nothing, If they changed music for the better NOW then please show me where.

I think I mentioned more than a "few stadium rock bands" in the mid 90's. I mentioned as many 90's alternate rock bands as I could think of within a reasonable amount of time. Some of which are still alive and kicking today. There is a lot of rock music today I don't particularly care for, but that doesn't mean it's as bad as the 10 years previous to Nirvana. I'm sorry, I can't stand the majority of 80's mainstream music!! It was a horrible decade for music. That's just my opinion.

As I explained in a previous post without Nirvana, I wouldn't have most of the music I listen to today. That's why I said they saved music IN MY OPINION. Nirvana accomplished a lot more than a lot of bands in modern rock and certainly more than any mainstream 80's band accomplished.

Opinion noted. Personally I think all of those bands would've came out anyway.

I don't think they accomplished more than the Smiths.

I'd argue that the likes of Public Enemy & Run DMC did far more for 90s music than Nirvana ever did , they basically built up a whole new culture that by the end of the 90s was the biggest selling mainstream genre of music.

But i can't see anyone with a name like RapSucks agreeing with that.

Yea pretty much.

Shoegaze started in the 80s as did noise rock. But that's beside the point. I'm not trying to say the 90s were a bad decade for music, I'm just trying to say I don't think it was any better than the 80s. Both had amazing underground music, both had lame pop crap.

How is it a stretch? Alanis Morissette was a minor pop star who toured with Vanilla Ice, then grunge broke and she completely changed her sound to the "angsty" rock that she's now known for.

Really? Hahaha! That's hilarious.:rofl:

I love that album, I can't believe anyone hates it...it's like a film buff saying they hated the godfather, it's just not right

i've been dead for ten years, but i'm still trippin..

???

:laughing:

It's a song about rape.

Blood Sugar Sex Magik > every album you own.

Anywho. Anyione who actually thinks Nirvana ruined music is lying to themselves. Sure music is worse now than it was in the 80s, but thats more the fault of Indie and Garage groups who thrive on their hatred of good music, including Nirvana.

How the fuck do you figure that one?

Thats what the critics told me to say.

Great review!

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So why isn’t it number one? Well, first of all, this album isn’t very mood inducing. There’s more rocking out, than there is introspective analysis. Also, while being incredibly catchy and addictive, Nevermind doesn’t produce much of an emotional response, except maybe anger.

Hu? Nevrmind was all about feel. That's what kurt was all about. Depression, anger, serenity, (Sarcasm)

Well bleach is definitly not as well known however it includes a huge unique ness that nevermind or in utero ever had. however that sometimes takes away from the songwriting techniques. Some people try to be too unique and it end terribly.

I wouldn't say Bleach is that unique, many grunge bands around that time had that sound. However i much prefer it to Nevermind, its far more raw.

In Utero is their finest album, and its criminal how it is celebrated less.

In Utero is just as good in my opinion

00's>80's. 90's>80's.

Yeah, your right.