Sometimes it makes me wonder if this albums detractors hate this album because of their theological standpoint (the album that sold grunge out or whatever) than a musical one.

Id say it the pop production on it is pretty good. Personally I prefer In Utero in terms of both aesthetic and composition but Id still rate Nevermind. If it had been recorded with acoustic guitar on a 4 track at home I doubt it would have gone multi platinum.

I think 'hate' maybe a too strong a word as far as i'm concerned.

I think the word I would use would be cynical.

I would say as far as Nevermind goes that it's a good impact album , but once that initial impact as worn off you are left with very little.

Just looking at Nevermind it seems like a checklist for mainstream success.

Good looking blonde singer ... Check
Clean production with hip producer ... Check
Loud anthemic lead single (Smells Like Teen Spirit) ... Check
Follow up mellower single (Come As You Are)
Sensitive ballad (Polly) ... Check
Potential follow up singles (Lithium , In Bloom) ... Check
Loud shouty short song to break up the commercial songs (Territorial Pissings) ... Check
Slightly longer meloncholic 'serious' song (Something in the Way) ... Check

As well as this you talk to any rock DJ from around 1990/91 and you'll find out that Nirvana were practically forced down their throats by the record company long before Nevermind even surfaced. It's no accident Nirvana became so huge no matter how much people protest against it.

Like I said I don't hate Nevermind , I just think it's an OK album. I just see very little in it to keep me listening to it anymore. For an album thats supposedly revolutionary I just think it's so damn safe it hurts.

I'm guessing Linkin park have also been shoved down many a dj's throat, but no one will be writing eulogies about them in 10 years, despite their immense commercial success...:rolleyes:

The problem is that what Nevermind was has become such a formula now, and such an omnipresent one at that, that its hard to see how it could have ever been condsidered revolutionary. The dense production style ofIt Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back isnt really something thats been copied that much and so sounds as revolutionary today as it did back in '87 or whenever but everybodys copying Nevermind now so much its almost parodic.

Urb... is there something you want to tell us?

That closet must get stuffy sometimes urban.

O.o...I had my suspicions of course but....it is a bit of a shock I must say. A homosessual in our midst...

Just saying what chicks I know have told me.

It's not as if Tad Doyle is gonna become a poster boy for grunge anytime soon.

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I'd tap that.

I lol'd.