Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967, EMI)
 

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Tracklist
1. Astronomy Domine
2. Lucifer Sam
3. Matilda Mother
4. Flaming
5. Pow R Toc H
6. Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk
7. Interstellar Overdrive
8. The Gnome
9. Chapter 24
10. Scarecrow
11. Bike


Review

Ive never been completely certain about how to feel about this, the first album by Pink Floyd and its only full length with Syd Barrett at the helm. Musically there are some very good songs on this album, so good in fact that at times I wish Barrett would just shut up and let the band be heard.

Im not a fan of Barrett, far from it in fact. I generally find his lyrics to be childish, inane and self consciously fey, cute and twee. Of course whimsy is what Barrett is known for and its the sort of thing that I guess you find endearing and are charmed by or just find to be unsophisticated and naive. I guess this is the sort of thing that the punk bands were reacting to a decade later. Taking my general dislike of Barrett into account I was surprised that I didnt absolutely abhor this album. Album opener "Astronomy Domine" kicks the album off in fine fashion with a beeping sound that gives way to a menacing guitar riff. The song progresses through several changes and is one of the albums more concise and structured songs, with a brilliantly empty middle section.

"Lucifer Sam" features a guitar riff that sounds like it belongs in a spy movie, a driving beat from Nick Mason and a short organ solo by Rick Wright that helps hold the whole thing together. The sound of Pink Floyd during the Syd Barrett era was actually far more eclectic than the tag psychedelia would suggest and "Lucifer Sam" with its driving sound is a good example of this. In contrast "Matilda Mother" is pure psychedelia, with a spacey reverb effect on Barret's vocals giving the song a druggy, hazy atmosphere. Its a far softer sound than the albums first two songs and demonstrates that even early on the Floyd had range in terms of arrangements. "Flaming" similarly has a gentler sound than "Astronomy Domine."

Unfortunately this is the point at which the album takes a considerable nosedive. The experimental and directionless "Pow R. Toc H" comes across as nothing more than a pointless filler track the band decided to bung on there to fill up 5 minutes. It really doesnt warrant talking about. The same can be said of the frankly dreadful "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk", featuring as it does possible the single most clumsy set of lyrics Ive ever had the displeasure of hearing and some incredibly bad guitar playing from Barrett that kind of sounds like a bee buzzing around inside of an empty beer can. Its notable solely for being Roger Waters first writing credit but certainly not for the composition itself.

The path downward continues with the nearly 10 minute long "Interstellar Overdrive", a song that kicks off with a nasty little riff so good you wish theyd based a song on it instead of tacking 8 minutes worth of directionless pointless jamming onto the end of it. Its got some innovative stero panning effects on it near the end but apart from that you can skip it after you've heard the first 50 seconds or so of riff. "The Gnome" is everything I hate about Syd Barrett's early songwriting all in a single song, so twee and quaint you might as well just watch an episode of Last of the Summer Wine and so bloody childish you may as well have asked a 6 year old to set crayon to paper and come up with something.

"Chapter 24" is a great song musically, so great that you just want Barrett to stop going on about mysticism so you can actually hear the music in all its glory. A nice bit of arrangement, its features nothing but cymbal crashes, melodic bass playing and a pretty lttle organ melody. "The Scarecrow" is similarly minimalist and concise but certainly darker in tone. "Bike", like "The Gnome", is twee and naive and between the inane lyrics (especially the gingerbread men verse) and wacky sounds effects it has little to recommend it really.

It is clearly evident from The Piper at the Gates of Dawn that Pink Floyd wasted no time in experimenting with new sounds and that they had already moved away from the kaleidoscopic sound of their earlier records. For this reason there is nothing on Piper that reaches the heights of "Arnold Layne" or the absolute musical peak of their very early years or "See Emily Play" as they named it. Neither of those singles appear on Piper and in a sense its fitting that they don't because both songs, "See Emily Play" in particular, display a clarity of vision, both in terms of arrangement and production, that they failed to recapture here.

Yeah, I disagree with most of your review. I think this album is brilliant musically, though the lyrics are pretty random and out there. But that was what made Barrett so cool. I also think Astronomy Domine is better than Arnold Lane.

I like all of the songs except Chapter 24 and Bike, which are real throwaways.

And really, if you don't think Interstellar Overdrive should have been on Piper, then you really don't understand what it was that Pink Floyd were trying to achieve at the time.

I understand perfectly well what they were trying to achieve at the time. I just don't think they did it very well. Its a long, meandering boring piece of music that should have been given the chop or at least cut down to a more listenable 5 minutes or so. Really it would have been best if theyd made a song out of that riff and forgot about the improvisation which, yes, is what they started as but that doesnt make it anymore listenable or enjoyable for me at least.

Their goal at the time was not at all to be accessible.

Nice review , even if I do disagree with most of it.

I love the fact that it's totally chaotic. The thing with pushing boundaries like they were at the time is that every so often you push too far & just end up with a heap of noise. I wouldn't change a single thing about this album , faults & all.I like it how he can be going on about inter-spacial travel one minute & singing about his cat the next.

And I guess i'll be the only person sticking up for Bike , I think it's a great song.I've always thought there's something sinister about it & I think it's much better than any of the twee pop songs bands like The Beatles & The Kinks came out with later on.

I like Bike too, it's like a piece of demented carnival music. And I like Barrett's lyrics... I don't know why they have to be anything other than childish nonsense. There's plenty of other lyricists out there with serious lyrics.

What a load of old horse****, They had no goal at all. they were a young band in the midst of turmoil via Syd's whimsical offerings and Roger's more technical ambitions.

If you even bothered to read my brief little post. You should know that be the way I phrased it, I only said what wasn't their goal, not what was, nor did I imply that they even had a goal at all.

Christ you are retarded. I don't think you even truly understand what you said, you just copied it from Rob Shefield or somebody because it looks nice on paper.

That being said, no one starts a band without having some kind of motivation.

He didn't read it wrong, it's the way you wrote it.

But.

1. He's still wrong.
2. His post was pseudo music critic BS.

He was just posting an opinion. There's no need for a hissy fit when people don't think what you do.


I've honestly never listened to this album I'm going to listen to it night. I like weird things like Ex Models so maybe I'll like this.

I don't think you will.

But heres hoping you prove me wrong.

I saw this interview a while ago with Roger Waters where he said that it actually took a lot of persuading on the bands part to get "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Pow R. Toc H" on the final album because the producer wasnt interested in them, he was more interested in Barrett's pop songs.

I don't know about that. Barrett once complained that because of the venues that they played the band were basically thought of as a dance band and not a band to actively listen to. The fact that people were dancing about to Pink Floyd instead of scratching their chin to my mind suggests that they were indeed accessible and that they werent trying to be so arty as to alienate people.

Producers are usually wrong. They are more concerned with making the album accessible to consumers than fulfilling the artistic aspirations of the musician. Which I think is what a producers job should be.

But sometimes producers have the right idea. Nevermind is one of my favorite albums, and I love Butch Vigs production even though I know that Cobain hated it and wanted to produce a lo-fi, muddy sounding record like all the Indie stuff around that time.

It was the 60s, the summer of love, everyone was high. They would dance to virtually everything.

I guess so. Have you ever heard the story about the show they played at the Filmore where Barrett detuned his guitar untill it sounded absolutely awful and just played that. Barret's horrible noise was their show. Wright didnt know what to make of it but he said the audience loved it.

I suppose thats what pot can do to your brain.

C'mon. Downtuning is awesome.

I.m not going to get into a flaming war, but i am not retarded. You don't know who the **** I am. I disagreed with your post. If you have read some of my previous posts, you will know that my favourite band is Pink Floyd. If someone disagrees with your opinion, you dont call them retarded, because perversely; that's what your retort is and no, I don't understand what I said. English is a completely foreign tongue to me. you have an extremely short fuse and it is'nt the first time you have disagreed with me so vehemently.

We can exchange opinions but calling people retarded is out of order.

Its not that simple. When you call somebodies post "F*cking bullsh*t" unprovoked and make the kind of generalisation about the band that you did like its pure fact. You can't expect that person not to get a little irritated by your attitude.

You response was not nice at all and was uncalled for, and now you're talking down to me a like you're a damn mod?

What the **** is your deal boo boo?

Its just that time of a month.

I think you're missing the point of Syd Barret's lyrics. The pure randomness of them, coupled with the occasionally meandering melodies and sound effects all(In my opinion)fit in beautifully with the excellent(If inconsistent)guitar of Barret. it isn't the technically best Pink Floyd album but it's my favorite. Personally I love the wildness of Power R. H Toc, but I definetaly agree with you on the annoying length of Interstellar Overdrive. It's just waaay too long. Cut it down to 3 or 4 minutes and it would great, but as it is one guitar riff doesn't make a song.

I did not say your'e post was bull****. I was reacting to your post with the words bullsh[i]t, which means I don't agree with that statement. I never attacked you personally and I have a right to my opinion.

--A band I did like?-- I love Floyd, but I should also be able to discuss their failings as well as their success without being called retarted.

--Your response was not nice---

Being called a retard because I dare to have a differing opinion? I think my reply was fairly magnanimous considering I'm a retard.

I have found umpteen threads around Musicbanter professing a dislike to many bands that I like. No worries . Life is too short. I will offer my contrasting opinion, but I will not resort to being a verbal bully.

The word RETARD has been used in very poor taste I think.

Can't we just get back to the idea of critiqueing the album and not each other. Ive seen this on other boards too mny times to lot learn from and what I learned was that as long as both people want to have the final the arguing will carry on and on forever untill somebody gets banned.:(

I agree with everything except there's not a song on there I don't like