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Engine 06-29-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 892195)
I would say the two albums are really pretty similar in that regard, but I think Bone Machine is more accessible to someone new to Tom Waits. Rain Dogs is probably my favorite album by him though.

I haven't listened to Waits in a real long time but I consider myself a fairly devoted fan.

Rain Dogs, Swordfishtrombones, and to a lesser degree, Frank's Wild Years were his golden years/albums in my opinion.

Interestingly, Waits is the musician who I have paid the most (by far) to see play live. $75 in Denver on his Mule Variations tour. I was sorta duped into thinking this was his 'last tour' for some BS reason but it was definitely worth it

Janszoon 06-29-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 892299)
I haven't listened to Waits in a real long time but I consider myself a fairly devoted fan.

Rain Dogs, Swordfishtrombones, and to a lesser degree, Frank's Wild Years were his golden years/albums in my opinion.

Interestingly, Waits is the musician who I have paid the most (by far) to see play live. $75 in Denver on his Mule Variations tour. I was sorta duped into thinking this was his 'last tour' for some BS reason but it was definitely worth it

I saw him on that same tour in Boston. Great show!

Engine 06-29-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 892303)
I saw him on that same tour in Boston. Great show!

It was great. He entered the stage by walking through the audience and he was throwing flowers as he went. You could tell the crowd wanted to throw palm leaves at his feet.:D

It does stick out in my mind as one of the best live music performances I've ever seen. Him solo on the piano was amazing - and those are usually my least favorite songs. That show was extremely honest, showy, and skillful all at once. Excellent

Janszoon 06-29-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 892304)
It was great. He entered the stage by walking through the audience and he was throwing flowers as he went. You could tell the crowd wanted to throw palm leaves at his feet.:D

It does stick out in my mind as one of the best live music performances I've ever seen. Him solo on the piano was amazing - and those are usually my least favorite songs. That show was extremely honest, showy, and skillful all at once. Excellent

Did he come out in that mirrorball derby hat at the show you went to? I found that part of the show pretty hilarious.

Engine 06-30-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 892317)
Did he come out in that mirrorball derby hat at the show you went to? I found that part of the show pretty hilarious.

I don't remember that. He definitely wore a derby or a fedora but I don't recall mirrors. Seems like I would have that image in my memory but who knows. I guess it was long enough ago that only certain moments are in there.

Janszoon 06-30-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 892689)
I don't remember that. He definitely wore a derby or a fedora but I don't recall mirrors. Seems like I would have that image in my memory but who knows. I guess it was long enough ago that only certain moments are in there.

You'd probably remember it if he did it at your show. In between songs at one point he ran off stage and returned wearing a derby with little mirrors all over it like a discoball. The spotlight beam narrowed and pointed at his hat, then he began slowly spinning in a circle, sending glittering points of light twirling around the auditorium. It was hysterical.

Unrelenting 07-05-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 891929)
Blood Money and Alice were the first two Tom Waits albums I ever got. Probably not the best place I could've started with him, but all I knew about Waits at the time was that Nick Cave liked him, so not very much in other words :p: It must be at least three or four years since I last tried listening to either albums, so I guess it's about time I gave them another run through. Top review by the way.

Same with the Heartattack and Vine - sounds like a really interesting album.

Looking forward to whichever one/s you've got lined up next.

Those were the two albums I started with too, and I found them to be a very good starting place.

Unrelenting 10-19-2010 08:19 PM

I'd love to see reviews of Bone Machine and Real Gone

TheBig3 10-20-2010 10:47 AM

Have a preference for which should go first?

James 10-20-2010 10:59 AM

I second a Bone Machine review.

TheBig3 10-20-2010 11:03 AM

alright well lets shoot for Bone Machine. I have a game tonight, but I'll try and kick it out. Otherwise expect it Thursday.

Bulldog 10-21-2010 12:51 PM

Ah, Bone Machine! Absolutely loved it when I first gave it a spin, but it's been an insanely long time since I last listened to it. Looking forward to seeing what you've got to say about it.

TheBig3 11-04-2010 10:12 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oneMachine.jpg


Released September 8, 1992
Recorded Prairie Sun Recording, Cotati, California
Genre Rock, Experimental
Length 53:30
Label Island
Producer Tom Waits

In some ways, Waits is like Dickens or Shakespeare in that his catalogue is long enough, and large enough to have phases, style changes, and growth. In the burgeoning subcultures of artist-followings that wax and wane with the tumult of generational changes; the slothing off of the old and the induction of the new, and the cultural changes that form the prism through which we view things, albums, novels, plays, and films often see their own peaks and valleys over the coarse of time. Certain works age well, some don’t. There are innumerate factors as to why something falls out of fashion and why it comes back into favor but nothing is better than the debates about the value of these albums among the faithful. This leads me to Bone Machine.

Bone Machine is what many regard as the 1992 masterpiece of Waits, often cited as inspiration by acts (though without expression in their music) and heralded as a top 3 in the overall timeline. It also happened to be an album I never quite understood. Why its critical acclaim was so high, especially in hindsight, never jived with me. Its not to say that Bone Machine isn’t good, but, well lets start from the top…

If you’re standing at the bottom of 2010, reflecting back on a careers worth of music from Tom Waits, its hard to see how Bone Machine trumps his Big 3; The Heart of Saturday Night, Raindogs, and Mule Variations. That isn’t my opinion, that’s generally the critical worlds analysis save for those few institutions that pay their bills on contrarian’s smugness.

For one thing, its got one of the stronger consistencies of any album. The deviations on Bone Machine appear at the end, and you need to check back in with reality to make sure you haven’t immersed yourself too deeply in the album. One finds the difference of songs on albums like Bone Machine to be akin to that of the difference between bands in some tiny, “underderground” movement of a subgenre that enjoys its glory in the mouths of social renegades only to be relegated to the barging bins of ailing records stores in the far reaches of a nation, where big commercialism has yet to strangle the last vestiges of small business from the region. In short, only when it becomes all you listen to can you accurately sparse A from B.

Bone Machine also has the distinction of being a transitional record. Like Swordfishtrombones, Bone Machine stands on the cusp of an ethos redraft from the euro-centric vaudeville of the 80’s albums to the bitter and ragged Americana that came to embody the new century.

And forgetting all of this, it plays like the demo version of Mule Variations before it got cleaned up, rewritten, and had its plotlines revisited and sharpened.

At this point it probably looks like I hate the album, and think it sucks. Its understandable, but understand this is a preliminary vision, and if anything, a warning against approaching the album incorrectly. As I said at the top, albums are often reborn with new cultural understanding.

What Bone Machine does very well, and is its strongest attribute, is that it builds a world for its listener. Earlier I cited ****ens and Shakespeare, but for Bone Machine it might be more appropriate to cite Faulkner. Waits albums are often full of a cast of characters sprawling across the world; Raindogs has Sailors in Singapore, Soldiers in World War 2, and a bunch of guys hanging out in Union Square (presumably New York’s US). Heart of Saturday Night finds people in Wisconsin, San Diego, and the Moon. But Bone Machine is Faulkner because these characters are all in the same little town, if not in words, than certainly in musical accompaniment.

Where it is can be hard to tell, but as critics are want to do, we can look at the first track, “The Earth Died Screaming”, and surmise that towns might be irrelevant in the post-apocalyptic universe that these characters inhabit. And in this world, the music is lower than backwoods, in many ways its scrap yard. I use that word to help us understand, but to the characters, music might have to come from what you find laying in the rubble, organized scrap yards might be a thing of the past.

The music is coarser and darker than anything prior, and even Mule Variations only matched it in moments. The only album able to match wits (or scraping metal as it were) with Bone Machine is Real Gone, and at least that album has a map associated with it. The lumbering stomp of In the Coliseum and the coconut trot of Earth Died Screaming seem to approach the idea of on coming doom with the slow torture of wait in different capacities. It suggest that it may come on us as a mob of society agreeing we should all be slaughtered for enjoyment, or that it will greet us at our lowest, when the world seems desolate, and for no one to find our corpse.

Even when Bone Machine does manage to dust itself off and make itself presentable to polite society, it busies itself by foraging in the dark recesses behind closed doors where culture is gone, and people are the real, raw monsters that hide behind corsets and makeup, suits and toupees. On Murder in the Red Barn, Waits visits the silence of rural inclusiveness, even in the face of unspeakable horror and goes so far to relate its culture to being numb to such trivialities (“there’s nothing strange about an axe with blood stains in the barn, there’s always some killin’ you got to do around the farm”). On Going out West, it would seem our protagonist was headed for LA, but given the album, we might wonder if his overall delusions allow him to believe there was an LA left.

In each, the production is expertly woven into the plot. Every piano bench creek, blown-out speaker, and missed note remains in, giving the album all the character flaws that come with humanity, to the elements those instruments represent.

Bone Machine, in the end, is a strong album, albeit alien in concept to the overall discography and certainly to the albums preceding it. I can’t say where I rank it, in fact, many consider my ranking outright backward to begin with, but lists are for the simple-minded. If we cannot explore each element, down to the note and see how it balances with the world around it, we will lose sight of what truly matters, that we are few things more than the world we place ourselves in, and the characteristics the world places on us.

To that end, maybe we shouldn’t review Bone Machine as an album in time, but a soliloquy in an act, within a play, describing not the person but an ethos on the creation of how Waits makes his overall albums. One dark and murky rant through a rusted out megaphone, about how if we don’t all pay attention, the oceans going to swallow us up whole. Then again, there are days where that’s a blessing, and sometimes the ocean doesn’t want you that day.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-04-2010 12:08 PM

Great review, Big 3! I myself am somewhat new to Waits, and thus far I've heard Swordfishtrombones, Closing Time, and Bone Machine - which I must admit made the biggest impression on me. I must have listened to Murder in the Red Barn and Dirt in the Ground 100 times afterward.

Unrelenting 11-05-2010 06:33 AM

Bone machine was most certainly one of Waits' most focused records. Goin' Out West is one of my favorite Tom Waits songs to date.

Engine 11-08-2010 10:37 AM

I spent a good amount of time tearing apart areas of my house looking for my copy of Bone Machine after I read your review. It reminded me how much I like that album. It also reminded me that even though I consider his 'middle' stuff to be his golden years - the later albums are also great. I prefer the later albums to the oldest ones a lot. Anyway, I never found my Bone Machine copy but did dig out The Black Rider and Mule Variations and have had 'em on almost permanent rotation

James 11-08-2010 10:39 AM

Great review of my favourite Waits album Big3. Well done.

TheBig3 11-08-2010 01:03 PM

thanks, gentleman. Anything to advance the cause of awesome.

Anyone have a favorite Bone Machine track?

Personally, I swing between Black Wings, Going Out West, and Murder in the Red Barn (which as I recall are close on the album). Depends on the mood, but I guess the one I go back to the most is Black Wings. Its not too abrasive in sound, and creates a mood beyond chaos.

James 11-08-2010 01:06 PM

Mine would certainly be Murder In The Red Barn. That track never gets old.

TheBig3 11-08-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 953854)
I spent a good amount of time tearing apart areas of my house looking for my copy of Bone Machine after I read your review. It reminded me how much I like that album. It also reminded me that even though I consider his 'middle' stuff to be his golden years - the later albums are also great. I prefer the later albums to the oldest ones a lot. Anyway, I never found my Bone Machine copy but did dig out The Black Rider and Mule Variations and have had 'em on almost permanent rotation

So did you like the review or did it make you reevaluate your memories of Bone Machine?

TheBig3 11-08-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 953897)
Mine would certainly be Murder In The Red Barn. That track never gets old.

I think what makes that song so great is that, for one thing its not terribly far-fetched, and secondly that it doesn't take many players to pull it off.

I remember on one of those terrible VH1 lists of the top metal songs, they had either Green Day or Nirvana listed somewhere on there, and Dee Snider said something like (i could have all of this wrong) "I liked that they trimmed the fat" referring to the fact there were only 3 of them.

Why it matters to me that only a few people make that escapes me, but I think its that so few of them can make such an environment with such little resources.

Engine 11-09-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 953904)
So did you like the review or did it make you reevaluate your memories of Bone Machine?

I liked your review. Honestly most of them are too long to accomodate your haphazard way of internet writing (i.e. no spelling or grammar checks). Sometimes your points/ideas get lost on me by the time I've translated what a particular sentence means, for example. I know it's just the internet but you should still at least skim over what you've written before you post it if you want people to read your shit.

But I found your Bone Machine review easy to read and it's full of interesting comparisons and apt descriptions. Mentioning Faulkner is always a plus. Overall, I think your review's a reflection of what's good about the album.

It didn't make me reevaluate my memories of Bone Machine (or Waits in general) but it did inspire me to listen to it again.

Janszoon 11-09-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 953896)
Anyone have a favorite Bone Machine track?

"Dirt in the Ground", "Black Wings", "Going Out West", and "In the Colosseum" are probably my favorites on the album. Great instrumentation and lyrics on all of them.

TheBig3 11-09-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 954278)
I liked your review. Honestly most of them are too long to accomodate your haphazard way of internet writing (i.e. no spelling or grammar checks). Sometimes your points/ideas get lost on me by the time I've translated what a particular sentence means, for example. I know it's just the internet but you should still at least skim over what you've written before you post it if you want people to read your shit.

But I found your Bone Machine review easy to read and it's full of interesting comparisons and apt descriptions. Mentioning Faulkner is always a plus. Overall, I think your review's a reflection of what's good about the album.

It didn't make me reevaluate my memories of Bone Machine (or Waits in general) but it did inspire me to listen to it again.

The day the posters of MusicBanter understand me is the day I hang up my keyboard. Some curses we just have to bare. (bear?...**** it)

Engine 11-09-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 954293)
The day the posters of MusicBanter understand me is the day I hang up my keyboard. Some curses we just have to bare. (bear?...**** it)

Haha - 'bear' is correct.
And it's a poor writer who blames his instrument .. or whatever.
Are you saying that posters on other forums understand you better?

TheBig3 11-09-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 954299)
Haha - 'bear' is correct.
And it's a poor writer who blames his instrument .. or whatever.
Are you saying that posters on other forums understand you better?

You know I brushed off the first jab, but its looking like you want a boxing match.

I'm not blaming anyone other than myself. My problem is that I always know what I mean and few others do. I suppose I could work on changing that, but for the same reason Jewel doesn't get her snaggletooth fixed, I don't care to change my approach. I'm afraid it will sully my craft.

If you want clear, you'll have to read an instruction manual. I don't understand much of what O'Hara's going for, but I still read him. He's a good mood-maker. We are what the stars have made us, I see to reason to question their judgment.

Engine 11-09-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 954307)
You know I brushed off the first jab, but its looking like you want a boxing match.

I'm not blaming anyone other than myself. My problem is that I always know what I mean and few others do. I suppose I could work on changing that, but for the same reason Jewel doesn't get her snaggletooth fixed, I don't care to change my approach. I'm afraid it will sully my craft.

If you want clear, you'll have to read an instruction manual. I don't understand much of what O'Hara's going for, but I still read him. He's a good mood-maker. We are what the stars have made us, I see to reason to question their judgment.

I really didn't even mean to make a jab, let alone a stick-and-move.

Write however you like, it's your writing.
But your comment did make me wonder if you think Musicbanter's posters are less intuitive or cognitive or post-modern readers than other sites' posters. That's all.

Btw - how about a review of Alice?

TheBig3 11-10-2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 954410)
I really didn't even mean to make a jab, let alone a stick-and-move.

Write however you like, it's your writing.
But your comment did make me wonder if you think Musicbanter's posters are less intuitive or cognitive or post-modern readers than other sites' posters. That's all.

Btw - how about a review of Alice?

I really like the posters here. If I have any criticism its that too much goes on in the non-music section, and possibly that the classics get blown a little too often, but overall this is one of the better communities I post in, and the only music forum I post in.

Me not being understood isn't a sore spot, but it is one of those frustrating things where you sometimes think "jesus, is it even worth it?" I think when speaking it translates a little easier since I can gauge reaction and get an idea of where other people are coming from. For all its benefits, text can really **** you.

Also, Alice it is.

Unrelenting 11-10-2010 06:18 PM

Alice has to be one of Waits' most melancholy albums. I've had a hard time getting into it.

Janszoon 11-10-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unrelenting (Post 954793)
Alice has to be one of Waits' most melancholy albums. I've had a hard time getting into it.

Replace "most melancholy" with "worst" and I totally agree with this post.

Engine 11-10-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 954846)
Replace "most melancholy" with "worst" and I totally agree with this post.

Really? I don't know Alice that well but I know it's got some songs that I love.
Why do you say it's his worst?

Janszoon 11-10-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 954895)
Really? I don't know Alice that well but I know it's got some songs that I love.
Why do you say it's his worst?

Because I like it the least out of all his albums. :p:

I love Tom Waits, he's one of my favorite musicians, but one gripe I've always had with him is his occasional tendency toward writing extremely tedious ballads. It was a bit of an epidemic for him early in his career. The second half of The Heart of Saturday Night, for example, is almost unlistenable because of this. The good news that for most of his output since the early 80s he's managed to largely avoid this trap. The bad news is Alice, which unfortunately is an entire album's worth of this kind of material.

Engine 11-10-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 954937)
Because I like it the least out of all his albums. :p:

I love Tom Waits, he's one of my favorite musicians, but one gripe I've always had with him is his occasional tendency toward writing extremely tedious ballads. It was a bit of an epidemic for him early in his career. The second half of The Heart of Saturday Night, for example, is almost unlistenable because of this. The good news that for most of his output since the early 80s he's managed to largely avoid this trap. The bad news is Alice, which unfortunately is an entire album's worth of this kind of material.

I think I understand exactly what you're saying. I don't like pop ballads in general and I like Tom Waits but I don't really like his ballads either.

In fact the main reason I like his later stuff more than his early stuff is because his later-years voice is rough and garbled enough to make up for his sappiness.

I may be remembering it wrong but I thought there are at least a couple songs on Alice where he belts out that excellent deep guttural sound. And I remember kind of liking the ballads, too, but like I said, I hardly remember

Unrelenting 11-11-2010 10:00 PM

I always get about half way through and then I hit my limit. Too much sap and unhappiness throughout the album. That being said, the song Alice, and Watch Her Disappear are excellent

TheBig3 05-18-2011 09:47 AM


Released September 1976
Recorded July 15, 1976 – July 29, 1976 at Wally Heider Recording, Hollywood, CA
Genre Jazz
Length 49:28
Label Asylum
Producer Bones Howe


Small Change is reportedly Tom Wait’s mental breakdown. As he described it in 1977 to Rolling Stone Magazine, in an article called “Smelling like a Brewery, Looking like a Tramp”, a lyric from his song “Panties and a G-string” (two o’clock club) [Small Change]:

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DM (1977): The final injustice came last spring in New Orleans when Roger McGuinn, Joan Baez, Kinky Friedman and some other members of the "Rolling Blunder Revue" as Waits termed Dylan's entourage, took over the stage at Ballinjax Club just before Waits was scheduled to begin his set. TW: "They got up there for an hour just before I was supposed to begin my set, Nobody even asked me; before I knew it, ****in' Roger McGuinn was up there playing guitar and singing and Joan Boaz and Kinky were singing. By the time I got onstage the audience was stoked. They were all lookin' around the room and ****. I don't need this crap - it was my show. I was drinkin' too much on top of everything else." (Source: "Smelling like a brewery, lookin' like a tramp". Rolling Stone: David McGee. January, 1977)
It was this action that spurned rejection. Waits went off to Europe and soaked in a lifetime worth of whiskey and culture. What came from this was a rejection of his earlier sounds, which did include jazz and blues, but also relied heavily of folks and country and both previous albums had a lighter feel. The booze-soaked rejection featured on Small Change might be the first signs (in hindsight) of Waits’s downward decent into the dark underworld of much later albums.

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Of one song, his producer Bones Howerecalls when Waits first came to him with the song: ‘He said the most wonderful thing about writing that song. He went down and hung around on skid row in L.A. because he wanted to get stimulated for writing this material. He called me up and said, 'I went down to skid row ... I bought a pint of rye. In a brown paper bag.' I said, 'Oh really?'. 'Yeah - hunkered down, drank the pint of rye, went home, threw up, and wrote 'Tom Traubert's Blues [...] Every guy down there ... everyone I spoke to, a woman put him there.”’ – from the Wiki page
Its not hard to imagine much of the album going in the same direction. For a man who’s most noted for heavy and depressing lyrics, Small Change packs some of the most brutal.
Invitation to the Blues most noteably:

“But she used to have a sugar daddy and a candy-apple Caddy,
And a bank account and everything, accustomed to the finer things
He probably left her for a socialite, and he didn't love 'cept at night,
And then he's drunk and never even told her that her cared
So they took the registration, and the car-keys and her shoes
And left her with an invitation to the blues”


Or

“But you can't take your eyes off her, get another cup of java,
It's just the way she pours it for you, joking with the customers
Mercy mercy, Mr. Percy, there ain't nothing back in Jersey
But a broken-down jalopy of a man I left behind
And the dream that I was chasing, and a battle with booze
And an open invitation to the blues”


While the album isn’t all dark - “I wish I was in New Orleans”, “The Piano’s been drinking”, and “Jitterbug Boy” are certainly less heavy – Small Change has a gritty immigrant feel due largely to the albums European influence, but American themes.

For me this album was always a sleeper. Its strength comes not from the immediacy of singles or powerful melodies (though there are tracks that do this), but to the enduring feel of the “Dear John” letter American life. Waits has always been a master navigator when it came to the ruthlessness of humanity. Small Change might signal his arrival at the top.

BastardofYoung 05-18-2011 10:59 AM

No "Closing Time" yet? Should be next one you do.

TheBig3 05-18-2011 11:04 AM

Thanks for the comment. I haven't decided what I'll do next but I can promise you when Closing Time steps up I'm going to tear that piece of **** to shreds.

BastardofYoung 05-18-2011 11:34 AM

lol... I would not call it a POS personally. Has some of my favorite songs, like "Ice Cream Man", "I Hope That I Don't Fall in Love With You" and "Little Trip to Heaven (on the Wings of Your Love)".

I love that one.

Or you could just do the expected one and go with "Rain Dogs".

TheBig3 05-18-2011 11:38 AM

Yeah, well I generally don't plan the order out ahead of time. Did you read the Small Change review?

BastardofYoung 05-18-2011 11:45 AM

Looking at it now, I think I can see how that album was the mental breakdown album. Mainly due to his drinking, "The Piano Has Been Drinking (Not Me)" and "Bad Liver and a Broken Heart (in Lowell)" are two songs that really speak to this.

It is still in my tops list for Waits. I personally tend to get more into the Asylum years with Tom. Though I love the later experimental years as well.

I made a 3 disc anthology of Tom for my mom for Mother's Day and included virtually all material from the asylum years and she loved it.

Might do a part 2 soon with the more exerimental stuff. Not sure if she would like it the same. She likes blues and jazz a lot, so the Asylum years seemed like the better way to introduce her to him.

My other album suggestion for review is "Nighthawks at the Diner", which is one of my favorite albums of all-time. One I do not seem to hear many discuss when talking his discography. Which is a shame, cause it has a lot of great moments. Seems to be the more devout fan favorite with many though.


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