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Janszoon 11-05-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyaga (Post 1247683)
Also, I dont consider pink floyd progressive rock at all.

Why not?

Meddle 11-05-2012 01:37 PM

Maybe he or she is insane.

crazyaga 11-05-2012 01:44 PM

Because they are simply not that progressive!
They have so many simple, emotional songs.... never realized why people consider them prog-rock.

Rock N' Roll Clown 11-05-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 1236434)
I've always had mixed emotions about The Wall which I've tried to convey many times. On one hand it's an absolute work of genius. On the other hand, it's beyond catharsis. There's no veil between artistic license and personal history. Listening to the album from start to finish can sometimes be like being paid by the hour to listen to Roger Waters tell you about how he got to be the ****ed up individual he currently is (I'm not implying anything about Roger Waters current mental health. For all I know he could be the most perfectly well adjusted human being on the face of planet Earth)

The Final Cut really conveys a lot of the same emotion that The Wall does without being quite so starkly candid. I definitely agree that it does seem like the third disc of The Wall and it may receive the criticism that it does because from a certain perspective it's just an epilogue to The Wall and a prelude to Roger Waters leaving the band and the ensuing legal nonsense. I think if their was another album between it and The Wall it would be seen as just a great Waters-centric Pink Floyd album, which it really is.

Does it mean that you like the two Gilmour albums (Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell) more than the two Waters albums (The Wall and the Final Cut). If so, we are on the same page. I do appreciate Waters' work and his sometimes truly genius lyrics, but it can really overload your brain with his personal problems, just like you said. On the other hand, Gilmour's stuff isn't bad lyrically at all, and musically is better, especially than The Final Cut (The Wall has some of their best songs musically, though).

Janszoon 11-05-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyaga (Post 1247780)
Because they are simply not that progressive!
They have so many simple, emotional songs.... never realized why people consider them prog-rock.

I don't see how someone could listen to a song like "Shine on You Crazy Diamond" or "Sheep" and not think it's prog.

Meddle 11-05-2012 02:19 PM

Looks like I need some Division Bell in my life!

Unknown Soldier 11-05-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyaga (Post 1247780)
Because they are simply not that progressive!
They have so many simple, emotional songs.... never realized why people consider them prog-rock.

Prog bands are not immune to doing emotional and simple songs either.

crazyaga 11-06-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1247807)
Prog bands are not immune to doing emotional and simple songs either.

why Pink Floyd are progressive and Radiohead not? Kid A is a ****ing complex album

Unknown Soldier 11-06-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyaga (Post 1247949)
why Pink Floyd are progressive and Radiohead not? Kid A is a ****ing complex album

Good question but Radiohead are most definitely prog in my mind and so are Pink Floyd for that matter.

crazyaga 11-06-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1248033)
Good question but Radiohead are most definitely prog in my mind and so are Pink Floyd for that matter.

Im my mind, both of them are not prog, but alt rock. (Radiohead is alt rock+ electronica)


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