DontRunMeOver

What words which are used frequently on MusicBanter do you find particularly offensive and unnecessary, which profanities do you find it easy to take with a pinch of salt and which blocked words do you not even consider to be swear words?

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adidasss

like i said, i only find certain words offensive when they're used with the specific intent to insult and berrate someone...obviously i have a problem with the word "***got" and i equate it with nigger....

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DontRunMeOver

Well, that seems like a good attitude. I think, however, that a lot of people who feel that an insulting word applies to them tend to be insulted by the word's use even when the word isn't actually directed at them.

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sleepy jack

Theres no real difference between the word nigga and ******, its just the intentions behind them.

I'd hardly consider faggot on the same level with ****** to be honest. ****** is usually, used more specifically in regards to black people, while faggot is pretty much just a generic insult in vein of dipshit, dumbass, fuckhead, etc...

I do think however, swear words in general should be used less. Its pretty lax around here, but like even if shit and crap mean the same thing, one is obviously more tolerable and appropriate. I dont know, its late i'm probaly making no sense..

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MURDER JUNKIE

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I'd hardly consider faggot on the same level with ****** to be honest. ****** is usually, used more specifically in regards to black people, while faggot is pretty much just a generic insult in vein of dipshit, dumbass, fuckhead, etc...[QUOTE]

I believe Adidasss will take exception with that

DontRunMeOver

Isn't that what constitutes the differences between words?

My understanding of it is that using the word 'nigga' in a phrase highlights the fact that you're copying a speech pattern and phrase which you might hear when one black person is talking to another black person (the word '******' would be pronounced as 'nigga' by a lot of people anyway, but it just reinforces where you're referencing the word to). To an extent, by representing the word in a more phonetic manner (nigga) instead of the more literary version (******) makes it more contemporary and ties it with it's modern 'street' usage (esp. rap lyrics) rather than its historical usage (which, by association with slavery, is probably the main source of its insultingness).

Like I said, that's my understanding of it, and that understanding deems the word written nigga much less offensive than the word written ******.

***got is pretty insulting, although I'd half-agree with Ethan, in that I'm not so shocked if I hear one person call another person it.

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adidasss

i expected more from both of you....this actually hurt my feelings because i respect you both...yet the level of hypocracy shown in both posts is astounding....
to advocate lesser usage of swear words and then say you're not really shocked or insulted by the use of the word " faggot" confounds me....just because one word is widely used as an insult doesn't make it any more acceptable than "nigger"...it shows the same level of contempt for a certain type of people. by enabling it's usage, by looking the other way and not having a problem with it, you're perpetuating the hate cycle....

i best get out of this discussion because i might get seriously upset, judging by the initial comments....

do as you please, i've learned not to pay attention to insulting remarks, but it still doesn't make it right....

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MURDER JUNKIE

Check and mate, I'm interested to hear CrazyLove, RealEyez, and Dirt's response to this thread

sleepy jack

I doubt any of them would care seeing as they've all used the term nigga on the forums.

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DontRunMeOver

I really am sorry if I managed to upset you inadvertantly, but what you've written there wasn't what I said or meant.

So it would have made a bit more sense if I'd italicised it, or replaced 'so' with 'as' or 'quite as'.

In this situation I'm talking about my own personal response to the word ***got. I, as a straight man, find it's use to be insulting - even though the word couldn't be directed at me with real intent. Being insulted is different to being shocked, in that being shocked also requires a degree of surprise. If I hear somebody *** described as a '***got', I'm not left as open mouthed and aghast as if I hear a black person described as a '******'... and that's the truth.

MJ, I'm interested too.

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