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Barnard17 08-30-2007 07:42 PM

When does a rule become a rule?
 
See the thing with this whole account disabled thing is, how was I meant to know it wasn't allowed? The multiple stickied rules threads make no mention of it, there's no thread about it in the rule forum, the thread in the lounge was started and then dropped down the board to the previous pages during a period when I wasn't checking MB.

So please, inform me were some underqualified, inexperienced, brash powerjunky gets off banning somebody for doing something as a joke response to a post by Big3 (see below for source), when that person has pretty much no way of knowing what they did was wrong unless they're the sort of boring shit who trawls through old posts on forums on the off chance that they missed something groundbreaking.

Also please inform me why, of so many mods, to my knowledge Ethan is the only one who had the balls to mention that Urban was acting like a spoilt powerwhore.

You guys DO realise all it would have taken was a PM saying "this is bad, don't do it", preferably with a link to the thread as backup (I'd normally say that an unstickied (there's a hint in that somewhere) thread is a little more effort than it's worth to dig up to reference, but I suppose Urban had to do it just to show everyone how awesomely massive banpowers makes his penis) and I'd've changed it without a second thought. I mean, I realise it takes longer to write out a PM than it does it ban somebody (genuinely, I know from the times I've spent banning people versus the times I've spent writing them PMs). But get real guys, are you trying to moderate a vibrant internet community, or deciding which kids can have a ride on the merry-go-round based on how good their haircut is?

I suggest you staff grow up and realise that without positive progression and a SERIOUS reassessment of your moderating techniques then the site will stagnate and the members worth keeping around will realise that there are tons of better run forums out there.

P.S. the account disabled rule (if it can be called that, seeing as the thread doesn't explicitly state that it is, just more implies that you find it annoying) is a sign of your poor staff communication and general mistrust of the abilities, openness and levelheadedness of your fellow staff than it is a good way to stop people playing silly buggers. Not least because there are other options when it comes to bans (as Ethan suggested, the strike through; which you struck down) but I suppose changing something to streamline the site and make life easier on you and the members would just be too much damn effort.

Sparky 08-30-2007 07:47 PM

for someone who never actually contributes anything to the site musically you sure take these minor issues seriously.

We are already coming up with a solution to the problem right now, and any differences we have with other mods we try not to express openly, but in the MOD section, so just because it seems theres no discussion going on, there actually is.

I do feel it was unfair to you however if you had no warning beforehand, and i apologize that we overlooked it in the rule book :)

sleepy jack 08-30-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matious (Post 392412)
for someone who never actually contributes anything to the site musically you sure take these minor issues seriously.

To be fair there are plenty of bitching users who contribute next to nothing musically though I won't name them, but i'll drop hints to the other mods. They've been causing alot of problems for us but when they bitch and complain about how they want certain things that is never pointed out. Just saying', plus I don't think we should allow whether or not someone posts in the music section lower his opinion any if its thought out and presented in an intelligent manner.


But anyway, this issue is being discussed, we may have a new system to where changing your usertitle to account disabled won't matter but we'll see. Its being discussed but users can continue to give their input so this will stay open.

Barnard17 08-30-2007 07:52 PM

"We overlooked it" translates to a mod trying to be diplomatic and cover another mods ass despite knowing that the other mod was completely in the wrong and acting as a lone vigilante.

When you have cancer, you cut it out. You don't sit about using facepaints, putting funny expressions on the lump in the hope that it'll make it any more healthy and bearable. This isn't politics, and even then people win more points when they put their hands up and admit it when the **** hits the fan rather than trying to hash it over.


The post that I was responding too with the custom title (I said see below but forgot to post it ... oops).
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 391039)
I didn't know I could kill two birds with one stone this easily. I really couldn't have dreamt of a better situation.

/bans Fal


right-track 08-31-2007 11:29 AM

Sometimes Fal I wonder what the hell you're on about.

You got a 3 day ban for something that was an ongoing annoyance.
You did it in innocence, you were unlucky.

No need for the amateur dramatics.

It no longer needs to be a rule.
Admin have now provided a custom Account Disabled feature.



One thread is enough on this subject.

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