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dog 03-18-2009 03:00 AM

new thread idea
 
hi, i was thinking about what kind of accent everyone here has. i thought it'll be cool if we record ourselves saying something quickly, to show other people what accent we have. i tried uploading an audio file but it didnt work. just a suggestion. bye

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 09:48 AM

Hmm...
I could imagine that thread getting pretty hilarious.

I don't have an accent though, so it wouldn't be beneficial to anyone if I made a recording. I do have some impressive burps though...

Janszoon 03-18-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 616910)
I don't have an accent though, so it wouldn't be beneficial to anyone if I made a recording.

Everybody has an accent.

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 616936)
Everybody has an accent.

Apparently not according to everyone I've ever met who's commented on the fact.

After being in the military, I've met A LOT of different people from different places. When asked where I'm from and they find out I'm from Louisiana, they always remark that I don't have the accent and in fact don't have one at all.
I speak extremely flat.
If that's an accent, then it's new to me.

EDIT:
I'm talking about American English, btw.
Although I'm no professor about it... So the above is merely deductive reasoning.

Alfred 03-18-2009 10:23 AM

But to the British it would be an accent, an American accent.

Janszoon 03-18-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 616939)
Apparently not according to everyone I've ever met who's commented on the fact.

After being in the military, I've met A LOT of different people from different places. When asked where I'm from and they find out I'm from Louisiana, they always remark that I don't have the accent and in fact don't have one at all.
I speak extremely flat.
If that's an accent, then it's new to me.

EDIT:
I'm talking about American English, btw.
Although I'm no professor about it... So the above is merely deductive reasoning.

Maybe you have a broad an generic American accent like I've been told I do but it's still an accent. Someone from another country wouldn't listen to you speak and think that you have no accent.

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 11:02 AM

^ True.

I remember hearing a British guy saying Americans have no accents... I don't remember when or where. I guess I got that perspective from what I'd heard.
But since I'm not British, I'd need a British person to confirm or deny that to Brits, Americans have or don't have an accent.

Janszoon 03-18-2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 616966)
^ True.

I remember hearing a British guy saying Americans have no accents... I don't remember when or where. I guess I got that perspective from what I'd heard.
But since I'm not British, I'd need a British person to confirm or deny that to Brits, Americans have or don't have an accent.

You really need confirmation on that? The word "accent" just means a distinct way of pronouncing words. Since Americans pronounce words in a way that is distinct from other ways of pronouncing words we have accents, American accents.

PinkCigarette 03-18-2009 12:19 PM

Americans have accents. Oh yes, we do.

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

You really need confirmation on that? The word "accent" just means a distinct way of pronouncing words. Since Americans pronounce words in a way that is distinct from other ways of pronouncing words we have accents, American accents.
I don't need that confirmation. I was simply offering that I can't speak for British people in order to nullify what I was told by a British person.

Janszoon 03-18-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617297)
I don't need that confirmation. I was simply offering that I can't speak for British people in order to nullify what I was told by a British person.

You don't need to speak for British people to understand that Americans have accents, all you have to do is observe that Americans have distinct pronunciation that is different from British people. But if you really need to hear it from a British source, here's a nice article from the BBC about learning to fake an American accent:

BBC NEWS | Magazine | How not to do an American accent

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 08:39 PM

Sigh.

How long is it going to take me to help you realize that I'm not talking about "accent" in the dictionary definition sense of the word? Forget what I said about British people. It doesn't matter.
Re-read everything I said, minus the British parts, and instead of the word "accent" appearing in your eyes and brain, replace it with "the way people compare my speaking in relation to others in America".

Then repeat the following phrase:
"Veridical Fiction has no accent" until it makes sense. However long that might take.

I already understand your point.
You seemingly are incapable of understanding mine.
Truly, we can have a conversation and not worry about whether a word we choose is the absolute truth in the context we're using them.
It's like me saying the leaf of a tree is green and you saying "Actually, that's only true in 98 percent of trees".

lucifer_sam 03-18-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617310)
It's like me saying the leaf of a tree is green and you saying "Actually, that's only true in 98 percent of trees".

only deciduous trees have "leaves," which occupy less than half of all tree populations. and i'm willing to bet less than 98% of those species have green leaves; chlorophyll isn't the only photoreceptor compound present in many trees.

Janszoon 03-18-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617310)
Sigh.

How long is it going to take me to help you realize that I'm not talking about "accent" in the dictionary definition sense of the word? Forget what I said about British people. It doesn't matter.
Re-read everything I said, minus the British parts, and instead of the word "accent" appearing in your eyes and brain, replace it with "the way people compare my speaking in relation to others in America".

Then repeat the following phrase:
"Veridical Fiction has no accent" until it makes sense. However long that might take.

I already understand your point.
You seemingly are incapable of understanding mine.
Truly, we can have a conversation and not worry about whether a word we choose is the absolute truth in the context we're using them.
It's like me saying the leaf of a tree is green and you saying "Actually, that's only true in 98 percent of trees".

There's really no need to be so condescending, I understand that you don't think you have a distinct regional American accent. I understood that after reading your second post. All I was saying is that even if that's true you do in fact have an accent, even if it's just a general American one.

At that point you brought in this thing about some British guy saying that Americans don't have accents which is obviously wrong whether you take it to mean we literally don't have accents or whether you take it to mean that we don't have distinct regional accents.

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 617331)
There's really no need to be so condescending, I understand that you don't think you have a distinct regional American accent. I understood that after reading your second post. All I was saying is that even if that's true you do in fact have an accent, even if it's just a general American one.

At that point you brought in this thing about some British guy saying that Americans don't have accents which is obviously wrong whether you take it to mean we literally don't have accents or whether you take it to mean that we don't have distinct regional accents.


Sorry. Didn't mean to sound condescending.
I got no hint that you understood what I was saying when you kept pushing the "everyone has accents" fact.
My bad.

I dunno where I was going with the British thing. I just mentioned that a Brit told me Americans have no accent.
That could have been left alone.

:D

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

only deciduous trees have "leaves," which occupy less than half of all tree populations. and i'm willing to bet less than 98% of those species have green leaves; chlorophyll isn't the only photoreceptor compound present in many trees.
LOL, it wouldn't have been me arguing that information.

Janszoon 03-18-2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 617342)
Sorry. Didn't mean to sound condescending.
I got no hint that you understood what I was saying when you kept pushing the "everyone has accents" fact.
My bad.

I dunno where I was going with the British thing. I just mentioned that a Brit told me Americans have no accent.
That could have been left alone.

:D

S'okay. It's always hard to read people's tone on message boards. Sorry for misreading condescension into your post. :)

Freebase Dali 03-18-2009 11:10 PM

Yay!

We e-hugged and made up.
lol.

Darkest Hour 03-19-2009 01:28 AM

i just made a really bad one, it's not even worth posting.

dog 03-19-2009 04:00 AM

wow, none of this is relevant to what i posted.

Molecules 03-19-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 616966)
^ True.

I remember hearing a British guy saying Americans have no accents... I don't remember when or where. I guess I got that perspective from what I'd heard.
But since I'm not British, I'd need a British person to confirm or deny that to Brits, Americans have or don't have an accent.

From what you claim (you could be from Taiwan for all I know), you have an American accent. British are of course crap at differentiating between North American regional accents, except we can usually tell if they are from the south or that place in Fargo.
I only recently found myself able to distinguish Canadians from their yankee brethren as well, they really don't sound the same... So maybe I'm not the best person to ask

coryallen2 03-19-2009 06:28 AM

i was born in novascotia so i guess you would call that a french accent? lolz

Molecules 03-19-2009 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coryallen2 (Post 617466)
i was born in novascotia so i guess you would call that a french accent? lolz

seriously? that's random Nova Scotia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <<<I'd move there

Freebase Dali 03-19-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog (Post 617422)
wow, none of this is relevant to what i posted.


That reminds me of internet forums.
;)

Janszoon 03-19-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog (Post 617422)
wow, none of this is relevant to what i posted.

Well you posted the thread in the wrong forum so we were off to a bad start from square one. :p:

Janszoon 03-19-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coryallen2 (Post 617466)
i was born in novascotia so i guess you would call that a french accent? lolz

Some of my people are from that area. My grandmother had a hardcore Acadian accent.

Mojo 03-19-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molecules (Post 617465)
From what you claim (you could be from Taiwan for all I know), you have an American accent. British are of course crap at differentiating between North American regional accents, except we can usually tell if they are from the south or that place in Fargo.
I only recently found myself able to distinguish Canadians from their yankee brethren as well, they really don't sound the same... So maybe I'm not the best person to ask

This is how I understand it yes. We can recognise three accents from that part of the world and they are 1) North, 2) South and 3) Canada.

right-track 03-19-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog (Post 617422)
wow, none of this is relevant to what i posted.

You posted a thread about an idea for a thread.

whaddya expect?


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