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you guys put way too much thought into it, and then get frustrated when no one notices.
Believe me, I don't wanna read 750 words of text. All you have to do is the album title and embed some youtube videos so i can listen for myself. I have no interest in joining a club or attaching myself to anything. I'm exceptionally lazy, i don't know what others think, but i really only look to discuss how i feel about whatever artist im listening to currently and don't really care about the original post that much. |
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edit : To me, the phrase "nuff said" generally means "I wanted to inform you of something, but was too lazy to apply anything but an absolute minimum effort into doing it". :rolleyes: |
But google already defeats the purpose of all that.
I go on mostly to be turned on to new music and comment on it. The original post is just a gateway to the discussion, i've never noticed a more thought out description of the band as ever lending to richer discussion. I find when the original topic is too focused on one particular aspect it limits the discussion |
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I'm not complaining about the way things were, just trying to point out a problem. If you write a long post and only get met with least-effort-replies, then it could sort of make you wonder what the point was with writing that large post at all. Your work largely goes unrewarded. That's what happens here. If you put effort into something, that often goes unrewarded. The only way to prevent that from happening is by not putting real effort into anything and then you get that shallow sort of forum where 90% or more of posts in the average music topic contain nothing worth reading. |
haha, in that case im unfortunately part of the problem
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Thats beautiful, whats it called?
http://eatenbymonsters.files.wordpre.../picture-1.png Its called "Lick My Love Pump" |
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i'm too new here and have nothing to compare it with, besides reading the old metal posts, which were full of idiotic poseurs, and i'm grateful for the metal community we have today
like i said, if djchameleon were not as firendly to me as he was when i joined, or that we didn't develop a friendship here and on the chatroom, i'd never have stayed jayshredzz merely got off on the wrong footing, personally i don't mind him, as i said a few pages earlier, it was just a wtf moment |
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I also think a major factor in the diminishing quality is a result of the popularity of the ancillary subforums that aren't specific to particular styles or core purpose of the site. Look at the amount of views for The Lounge compared to the rest, only 1 subforum even comes close (within 100 000 - 99 000 to be exact). People are not joining this site to talk about music. They're joining a social club that ends up talking about music (like it's a unique topic of discussion) as opposed to the intended role of those subforums as a place to discuss randoms things after having discussed music. The other problem is subjective vs. objective discussion. Subjective discussion is passionate and emotional, filled with drama and personal opinions. It's ultimately baseless if you want to participate in a thread that reaches a conclusion truly worth reading, but it's generally a whole hell of a lot more entertaining than a scholarly discussion (which tends to be super clique-ish). I'm hoping Jayshreddz is a techhead and was made a mod so that he can work within the guts of this forum and whatever others owned by its parent company to modernize it (and not someone's little brother). The worse thing the owners of this place could do is try polling and satisfying the community prior to revamping the site. Someone like JS who doesn't seem to care about anyone and vice versa is probably the best candidate to spot areas of improvement for the owners. None of the changes need to satisfy existing members, we ARE the reason the site is in its current state, they need to attract the right kind of future users. Otherwise, this is just a glorified Facebook group page. |
I have applied for modship 2 times over my 5 years here and been denied both times after writing a very length explanatory application, including a few projects and ideas I wanted to do with the forums. Both times a member who had joined literately months before was chosen. Pretty disappointing.
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s_k put me up for voting to become a mod
i'm not really that interested, tbh making up wise-ass comments already take up too much of my time |
I may have been a bit unwelcoming but to be fair I was still blue'd from the weekend (Thats the problem with those vallium, you think they're away but they never are). I am also under the impression the guy is a complete robot considering he was a member for little over a week when he was modded. There is much more deserving members here who should be modded and you all know who they are. Anyways, congratulations Jay I guess.
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I thought this thread was a joke at first. Some random dude just got made a mod for no apparent reason? I wonder if some jackass didn't just give his son a job to keep him from spending all his time snorting coke? This is why it's retarded to have a company run message board.
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Just seen this thread as well, it seems to be the old case of a newbie being handed a plum position and the others not liking it.........its human nature I suppose. Basically Jayshreddz has just come in and he doesn't know the community and the community doesn't know him, basically just give the guy some slack and judge him after a reasonable period of time and not before he's even started.
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Fuck the system.
It just seemed fitting and I like saying it. |
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Second point though is where I differ, the guy has been appointed and he just accepted the job. All I know about him is that he loves Pearl Jam (which is really good) and dislikes Neil Young (which is really bad) we don't know too much about his musical knowledge and his ability to do the job, but he should be given a chance to show what he can do. For fuck sake it could've been much worse, we could've had Hip Hop Bunny Hop made up to a super-mod and we could've had the Klan running the forum.:laughing: |
Well shoot, I leave for a couple of weeks and this happens?
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They desperately needed new administration help to cope with your absence. |
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It's ignorant generalizations of our staff as seen above your post that really make me want to give the users what they seem to want and start doing fuck all, then see if they notice a difference. I had something fun planned for April, but maybe I won't put in the effort now. |
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This decision blows.
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Then we find out he's a mod all of a sudden? Yeah. Expect a bad reaction. |
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You are a kick ass mod. Dont listen to anything or anyone. Especially with organizing the weekly themed threads and many other things. We need more like you in fact. /ass kissing over |
Thanks Rezz, though if I remember correctly, I was one of those freshies that was modded when you also applied. :(
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For the second time: There is more to the moderation of a forum than being involved in the community and helping its growth. It's great when you have a team which can both "moderate" and help the forum develop, but in my own experience of hiring mods (forum with 6 million posts, 100,000 registered users and 3,000 active users, and a three-tiered team of over 30 moderators, I know what I'm talking about), you can't always get people who have everything.
Satch has said it before, and I know other people have as well - the way mods are recruited on this forum is great, for one aspect of moderation. When it comes to dealing out the letter of the law, it IS harder to be just when you know the people involved. It DOES lead to a group where the "accepted" members of the community receive better treatment than outcasts/newbies. It's generally not intentional, but even the most just of people generate small bias over time. So Jayshreddz didn't make the best of first impressions. I honestly couldn't care less under the circumstances. he has implied that his job here has nothing to do with what is considered here to be the standard moderating role. There is far, far more to the running of a forum than being well-liked, responsible and contributing. Noone here knows anything about him or his qualifications, so as far as I'm concerned he could be far more qualified for his particular role than any of the volunteer mods here. Finally, this is presumably a source of income for the owners of the website. Presumably, they want someone they trust relatively involved in the moderating and the development of the site, in order to maximise profit. A random volunteer from the forum isn't going to necessarily have their best interests at heart. |
In all seriousness I thought it was a joke because I thought he was a troll...
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