Honestly, I have not been here much lately because of personal crap and so have not had the time or patience to read through the original thread. I'm abstaining from voting because I don't yet understand what's going on here.

But what about those that don't? Would they just have to deal with it? If any of this ends up approved, my activity here will drop immensely.

Yes, they voted no on tore's original infraction package, but this poll is about various other ítems too.

no your not reading the wrong poll love, I'm just saying some folks aren't into it. Some are. And those not into change only have buttons in the initial poll and this sorta reads like f you guys your opinions only half matter, which was the problem with the original poll and it looks like sore loosing.Because it was 20-10 last I looked.

Every category has an option that represents how things currently are and alternatives. Wording might be loaded but it still fits.

I don't see a problem with this. Either you want respected members to be given some leeway for their past contributions(or whatever else) or you don't. Some of you are getting incredibly nitpicky over some really dumb ish.

I'm not really sure what you're saying here. If the majority of the forum wants X, are you saying the forum shouldn't consider X? I think it's reasonable to consider changes if the majority want them, though based on the previous poll, it looks like majority don't.

To clear up any confusion, the previous poll was a yes / no poll regarding my suggestion. This is not about that anymore. This is something else.

All you basically have to do is vote for whatever statements you agree with.

Reading up on the old discussion may be useful if you want to find some arguments on the things that I suggested and I really think people need to know what the infractions system does before they don't vote for a general policy to use it. It effectively automates record keeping, bans and helps ensure transparency. It's a sweet thang.

Yeah, the options are fine and it took me all of thirty seconds to vote.

1\2 minute man.

The issue is that that wasn't really the question in the first place so for someone with my position that issue, which I've made clear from very early on, it's being presented with a proposal they disagree with versus a strawman of their actual position. Kind of problematic.