wild man fischer
 

wild man fischer ?
genius ?
nuts ?
or all 17 ?

i know where i stand !

usually the end of the bar drinkin stout

Both genius and nuts definitely.

couldn't agree more
first i heard was My name is larry
couldn't believe it
it was John Peel that played it on radio in the early 80s
i was a teenager at the time and i thought - this'll do me

the documentary de-railroaded is fantastic
a must have

nice to talk to a fan

you're the first person who's actually heard of him

I just discovered this guy. I'm really enjoying the album "Nothing Scary", although at 34 tracks it's a little more miss than hit but the good tracks are really good. I kind of like the backing tracks more than I actually like Fischer's singing though.

"An evening with Wild Man Fischer" is definitely the best of his albums - it's a shame that Gail Zappa refuses to allow it to be reissued....

I can't say he's convinced me in the past even though I don't mind listening to some outsider music.

Probably a bit of both. I like him though, as a fan of the "outsider art" stuff he is an interesting listen. have not heard much by him, but I remember seeing this for the first time and thinking it was cool (the studio version is the better one though):

With his name I just expect him to be more wild I suppose.

Listening to 'An Evening with Wildman Fischer'. Amazing stuff, weirdly ironic thinking to a man who stabbed his mother, and is absolutely insane. Sounds absolutely insane.

Damn, I wish there was still a Frank Zappa to find weirdos like this, and record them. It's utterly morbidly fascinating.

Yeah, Zappa knew weird. He also praised The Shaggs a lot. lol.

also. if you like stuff like this. track down both of these CD's:

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Songs in the Key of Z: The Curious Universe of Outsider Music by Various Artists : Reviews and Ratings - Rate Your Music
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Songs in the Key of Z: Vol. 2 by Various Artists : Reviews and Ratings - Rate Your Music

Actually almost done listening to the Shaggs's 'Philosophy of the world'. Strangely, Thinking this must have had a massive impact on J-pop, and Japanese music. Some reason it reminds me so much more of Japanese music than American.

Japanese pop music I've always thought has been extremely influenced by American pop music, 60s pop music and later West Coast style among them. Experimental music or more punk experimental if we call it that may have been influenced by someone like The Shaggs I suppose.

I'm not saying it's direct, for some reason I just notice similarities in the bizarrely rhythm dissonant female vocals. Could be entirely coincidence, or influence of influence. I mean Japanese popular music in general, and how they deliver vocals.

But I think most of Japanese popular music has been in the idol genre. Western rock critics tend to ignore that music.

Sadly, American Rock outfits do. But Japanese Rock outfits do not ignore American Rock outfits, or the outfits of the world. Which I suppose is the reason for their imo much superior output for the past two decades(underground, not mainstream).

However, I'm not sure your point. All I'm saying is that the vocals are similar, and might have inspired Japanese singers. Did they? I don't know, I was just noting the similarity.

Japanese music has been very influenced by Western music, particularly American, since the 60s. Sometimes it can come across as just copying, other times as an interesting twist. Generally I do prefer older Japanese music.

i am curioused by him

i'd like to think I like him

(me too)

The 'Evening with Wildman Fischer' is very experimental. Spends much more focus on trying to simulate the world of an acid casualty paranoid schizophrenic street performer rather than build a repertoire of memorable song. For that reason, I love it. Remember, though, this means the majority of it is rants, and field tapings.

^^will check it out

i only heard some of his street acapella songs

After you uploaded one of his songs on mumu I thought it was really interesting an went and checked it out more. It seems like a lot of his tracks have an element of acting. It's great voice acting which is what makes it so appealing to me.

I'm also not sure how he would be considered a genius, but it looks like he was at least very misunderstood.

What's interesting about the Evening With Wild Man Fischer album is that it was produced at all/the production.

When that album was first released around the Summer of 1969, in my area FM radio was still fairly limited (I grew up in Denver). You had two stations playing top 40 rock, one station playing album oriented rock, and sadly neither of those type stations would touch Fischer with a 10 foot poll. But the college underground stations would, did, and that's how I found out about the lp. And yea, it's OUT THERE!

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This is the only Wild Man Fischer I've heard. Too many of his releases are out of print. I've been thinking about picking up the "Derailroaded: Inside The Mind Of Larry Wild Man Fischer" dvd. I suppose it would be a nice companion piece to the Daniel Johnston documentary.

Ohhhhhh, I never realized we had a Wild Man Fischer thread and I never bothered to look it up. Great thread bump, crazed!

I've always wanted to listen to his later albums to see if they portray him in a more positive light, but at the very least the debut is an interesting documentary of an interesting man. A shame the Zappa estate has let the album fall out of print...I guess there was bad blood between the Zappa family and Fischer so it's not surprising but still a shame. He definitely doesn't come off as an outsider music genius or anything to me but the album is very different and well put together, and that alone makes it worth a listen every now and again. I'd love to find a copy while record digging, but fat chance of that ever happening!

The bad blood between Zappa and Fisher was very deep by the A Evening With... went nowhere. The saddest part of the story involved Fisher throwing a jar at Moon Unit (a child then), but there was also accusations that Zappa ripped him off thinking that the album sold a lot while the reality of the situation saw it sell very little - possibly as much as The GTO's album. Even an appearance on Laugh In could not generate interest. I have the DVD From Straight to Bizarre which told the story with a nice amount of detail along with other stories revolving around the Zappa-related labels.

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I think a lot of the interest in his music is more with the connections he's made through the years - Zappa, the early days of Rhino Records, Bill Mumy, and a couple of others. Of course that's the interest in "Outsider Music" as well.

Wow, somehow I ended up buying a copy of An Evening With Wild Man Fischer at a local store over the weekend. They were like "we got this weird rare album produced by Frank Zappa" and I couldn't believe it! It's not in great condition but I didn't have to pay any hard cash since I had a ton of store credit.

My opinion of the album has changed a bit after giving it a bit of a relisten. Zappa's production gives the album a very interesting documentary structure...almost exactly like Trout Mask Replica does for Captain Beefheart. Of course, Beefheart and his band more than support themselves musically while Fischer doesn't as much on his album. It's his stories and personality that drive it (for me, it's almost worth the price of admission just so I can compare and contrast it with Trout Mask Replica, which is my favorite album). Hearing Fischer on the streets interacting with people is fascinating as well, great stuff there. Urban field recordings! And hearing Zappa and the Mothers backing up Fischer on those couple of tracks is pretty awesome too.

Not an amazing album but it's unique and I think it has earned its place in my collection. Good to give a listen to every year or so. Definitely going to make an effort to check out his Rhino material...if I can find it.

I heard about Fischer doing something that endangered Zappas kid. So sad, no wonder that album has never been issued on CD by the Zappa estate. Not that it would sell much even if it was...maybe that's more of the reason! And that derailroaded documentary looks really interesting, as does From Straight to Bizarre...I will have to remember to check them out when I get the chance. :)

From Straight to Bizarre, much like the other Sexy Intellectual disc I got on the same day Strange Fruit: The The Beatles' Apple Records, were surprisingly good, both very long Documentaries. The disc on Zappa's label covers a lot of territory including good segments on Beefhart and Fisher.

Merry Go Round by Wild Man Fischer

The novelty wears off on about the third or fourth time you play it.

My favorite Wild Man Fischer song