Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Avant Garde/Experimental (https://www.musicbanter.com/avant-garde-experimental/)
-   -   Bull of Heaven (https://www.musicbanter.com/avant-garde-experimental/51024-bull-heaven.html)

Tarkus 08-14-2010 10:55 PM

Bull of Heaven
 
Hello everyone,

This is my first post, so please be nice :). I actually joined this forum specifically to talk about this band in particular: Bull of Heaven. Let me prefice this by saying I have looked everywhere trying to find intelligent discussion on them, and failing to do so, hoped some of you might be able to pitch in ;)

For those who aren't aquainted with the group, they are technically classified as 'drone', although I'd say they could more accurately described as Soundscapers. Basically, they throw all musical conventions out the window in order to do whatever they want. Anything from a Hammond organ to a leaking refridgerator or answering machine played backwards could be showcased in one of their projects.

The other unique thing about these 'projects' is that they are long. Some are just a few minutes, but most last hours. A few are over 100 hours, and the longest clocks in at just under 5 and 1/2 years of continus music (the current record for a studio album).

One of their most interesting pieces is the two month long "The Chosen Priest and Apostle of Infinite Space", which I want to listen to in it's entirety of the course of several years. But before I start I want to get in touch with some other fans (if they exist :D) and find out what their experiences with the band have been like.

And for those who have never listened to any of Bull of Heaven's music before, don't let me give the impression that it is all long and impenetrable. They have many short, more easily stomached pieces. All of their music is streamed for free at their website, bullofheaven.com Bull of Heaven. Give some of it a try! A good first song is "Of What Far Sea Upon What Unknown Ground", it is only about 5 minutes and is very easy to tolerate.

I'm interested in hearing your opinions!

cardboard adolescent 08-15-2010 04:20 PM

I listened to a bit, and it sounded very otherworldly and ethereal. Seems like something that would be nice to experience live and lose yourself in.

The Bullet 08-16-2010 12:17 PM

I listened to a little a while back, and to be honest, I couldn't tell weather it was a joke or not. Seriously, five hour "songs" that are basically a guy talking over slow, weird, repetitive sounds? Maybe I need to listen a little more, I could never get through most of their songs (for obvious reasons)

Dr_Rez 08-16-2010 12:56 PM

Do you have a link or something we could use to check them out?

dankrsta 08-16-2010 01:54 PM

I just listened to some of it on their site. Well, it's an interesting concept that breaks the notion of music as a temporal art. Because it doesn't really matter how long these pieces last, 5 min., 5 hours, 5 days, weeks, months, 5 years, the music is static or in a loop, it doesn't change in time (or the changes are so slow that we don't feel them as such); it becomes permanent. Ultimately, it can last forever. If we could, hypothetically, listen to it always, to infinity, it would become a silence...Hmmm...like I said, an interesting concept, but in the end, just a concept...like perpetuum mobile.

The Bullet 08-18-2010 10:26 AM

Don't they have one song that's zero minutes and zero seconds long? Talk about a concept.

dankrsta 08-18-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bullet (Post 919900)
Don't they have one song that's zero minutes and zero seconds long? Talk about a concept.

Really? But that's approaching infinity too, only through the other side, so it fits their concept.

Tarkus 08-19-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezZ (Post 919236)
Do you have a link or something we could use to check them out?

Their official website is Bullofheaven(dotcom). Sorry, I can't post URLs until I make a few more posts ;). It streams all of their music for free and numbers each project individually. Some of the longer songs also have excerpts.

And yes, their music is highly conceptual. But to the extent that listening to anything can give you an understanding of what Infinite Space really feels like, it is their music.

And I definitely agree with dankrsta; the length of the music isn't relevant, it is just different ways off exploring new conceputal ground.

One of the things I like most about "Of What Far Sea Upon What Unknown Unground" (track 205 on their website) is the fact that the music is more complicated than the ear's ability to percieve. It changes every time you listen to it, because you follow different subtleties inside the soundscape.

Now that is awesome :D

Dr_Rez 08-20-2010 12:36 AM

Thanks i will check it out and report back.

Guybrush 08-20-2010 01:19 AM

Sounds horribly conceptual and perhaps a bit pretentious to me. That doesn't mean it doesn't have value to me, but I tend to think of stuff like that more as curiosity than anything else. Unless it's really good perhaps.

You've piqued my interest, though, so I'll check them out!

edit :

Thought this ws an intro thread at first :D

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-20-2010 08:25 AM

The artistic concept behind it is an interesting one. 10/10 for that.

I'm not going to waste any of my life listening to it though.

VEGANGELICA 08-20-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 920745)
The artistic concept behind it is an interesting one. 10/10 for that.

I'm not going to waste any of my life listening to it though.

Here, now you can spend only 1 minute 21 seconds of your life listening to it! :D


Guybrush 08-20-2010 02:09 PM

^ .. Why? :|

Is it that easy these days? Gimme 5 minutes and I'll whip up something that will rival that 1 minute and 21 seconds easily!

The sound of my tinnitus is more enjoyable than that.

Tarkus 08-20-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 920852)
^ .. Why? :|

Is it that easy these days? Gimme 5 minutes and I'll whip up something that will rival that 1 minute and 21 seconds easily!

The sound of my tinnitus is more enjoyable than that.

Well to be fair, that example VEGANGELICA posted was a single track off an album that has exactly 1 million tracks of identical length. I am not exagerating, their are literaly 1 million alphanumeric tracks, each consisting of a unique timbral expression. Bull of Heaven allows you to download them seperately, so the listener (or another band) can layer them in one of a nearly infinite number of ways.

If you want to get into their music, go to their website. Again, I'd recommend "Of What Far Sea Upon What Unknown Ground." Then try something like "Superstring Theory Verified" (111). Both are of reasonable length and will give you a good jumping on point before you sink into the several hour compositions.

tone float 09-01-2010 04:03 AM

i love it, i could draw some f@#ked up **** to it all week and not have to change the cd, it would cost a fortune in download bandwidth gigs to listen to one track, my neighbour's think i'm strange enough as it is with some of the music they hear comin from my house :), if i listnined to one of the long trackes my neighdour's would call the authorities thinking i have comited suicide and left the cd on repeat :) i bet my left testie those cats get into the old master himself klause schulze as he also has tracks that go the entire lenght a disc can hold, if you don't know who klaus schulze is have a listnin, and you'll hear what i'm talkin about


Laurent Quinn Proper 10-21-2010 07:43 PM

You can listen to their work on their homepage.

Bull of Heaven

It's going to take you a couple of years to actually get through though.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:06 PM.


© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.