Strategies Against Architecture II - The (NEW) Avant Garde/Experimental Album Club
"Wherever we are, what we hear is mostly noise. When we ignore it, it disturbs us. When we listen to it, we find it fascinating." John Cage Welcome to the The (NEW) Avant Garde/Experimental Album Club! Since this part of the forum has been slow, this might be a good way to revive it. I'm happy there are already people interested, but anyone can join at any time. The idea is similar to other clubs here especially to tore's The Prog & Fusion Album Club. I like the idea of every chosen album having its own thread. That means we are going to suggest albums for listening in this thread and then we're going to vote for one. When suggesting an album it would be nice to include some album art along with a name, year (it's not necessary, but I like it) and a bit of info (or at least a link to allmusic, rate your music or something similar). That way we will know what we vote for. The next question would be: What makes some album avant-garde or experimental? Let's just say, any composer, musician or a band that you would write about in this part of the forum count. We're not going to be strict about tagging. This way, we have a very broad field to choose from, everything from so called high art avant-garde music to experimental genres of popular music. It just has to go out of comfort, established zone and be off-center. For the first round, we can start suggesting albums these two days. Then, I'll add poll here and we'll vote over weekend. We will have a week for listening to chosen album. Plenty of time for it to sink in. After that I'll open the discussion thread. And then we can do this weekly. If that's all right with you, I can later edit these rules to be more readable. Let's begin! -Dankrsta so i think we should try a run at this club again....i think i'll add few guidelines to it though....very similar to the general music club that Pedestrian started... we'll start of with a few days of album nominations and then i'll add a poll....then we'll have a week to discuss and vote on an album.....and then a new thread for each review....which will last about a week and then we'll start all over please be willing to actually listen to and review the album which is picked if you decide to nominate an album.....when you nominate an album add a description to help create interest.....please be open minded and not vote for your own nomination.....also if you choose to participate please be prepared to supply a digital copy of your album....as some of this stuff can be a bit difficult to track down anybody can join in with both nominations or just simply reviews at any time lets do it :) http://www.musicbanter.com/avant-gar...lbum-club.html ^first club for those of you who did not know of it i'll start with...... Caroliner Rainbow Open Wound Chorale - Rise of the Common Woodpile Caroliner Rainbow is by far thee most interesting live band i have ever seen....their true identities are a mystery....but they are a cover band of an infamous singing cow named Caroliner.....who was huge on the circus and fair circuit back in the '20s but was betrayed by her owner and slaughter for food..... this is by far my favorite album by this amazing band....it incorporates elements of rock, noise, bluegrass, harsh experimental banter, DaDaism and very artistic somewhat frightening performance art.....this will probably be enjoyed by all....or at least it should be :) |
Jihad / Live at the ECCA 1980 (2008) by Tunnel Canary http://a1.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/i...92ce1d2b/m.jpg Straight from Canada's underground punk scene... Tunnel Canary were making scream-noise/free improvisational music from the late 70s to early 80s... and there was nothing quite like it at the time. Technically, this group was made up of only two people: Nathan Holiday (guitar, electronics) and Ebra Ziron (vocals). Holiday, who was the founder of the group, spoke about how punk rock wasn't really rebelious in terms of its song structure and how many of the artists were just playing the same old rock 'n' roll chords over and over again. Sounds a bit like the No Wave philosophy, huh? Anyways... he felt that someone needed to take punk rock's abrasiveness and upfront attitude and make something completely different out of it... This is what he ended up doing, and (in my opinion) he did it well. Holiday actually considers his music to be "real" punk rock due to its utter disregard of conventional song structures and his I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude to what people wanted in music. Anyways, the album itself is comprised of three lengthy tracks: "Jihad", "Beauty Secrets", and "Winterkill". They're harsh, noisy, and they have screaming female vocals. I can't help but think that Canada has a thing for early noise music... You know... with artists, such as Intersystems and The Nihilist Spasm Band, but... I digress. |
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That sounds like an amazing album bob! Jack Pat, sounds like it might be interesting too. I love screaming female vocals. :)
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jackpat....nice :)...very nice
so we'll go for two more days.....i suppose if more nominations (hinthint wiinkwink know what i mean?) don't come in i'll just add more suggestion to equal....six |
Yea, I have a couple of albums I could nominate as well. I know that people like Janszoon, Davian Cowboy, Occult Hawk, Electrophonic Tonic, Loose_Lips_Sink_Ships, and Stu listen to experimental music, so... maybe they may have a few albums to nominate?
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hmmm....maybe we should just do reviews of both albums.....what do you all think?
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Eh, to be honest, I would much rather just vote on one...
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alright Jack give two more suggestions....i'll add two and i'll add the poll tomorrow morning
edit PLEASE anybody else with suggestion throw them in today! |
Classic Erasmus Fusion (2006) by Volcano the Bear
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/albu...29b/537279.jpg Alright, I won't say too much about it except for the fact that it incorporates elements of: free improvisation, ambient/drone, psychedelia, world music, noise, avant-garde jazz, and various forms of folk (freak folk, free folk, and avant-folk). However, there are a few tracks have take a more traditional approach to songwriting, such as "My Favorite Tongues" and "Did You Ever Feel Like Jesus?" This is a really strong modern experimental release, and I have heard people call it a masterpiece. 天乃川 (Milky Way) (1973 Live) (1993) by Keiji Haino http://static.rateyourmusic.com/albu...fa0/152688.jpg Alright, here's another Keiji Haino album that I have up my sleeve... Keep in mind, though, that this recording was made eight years before his debut, Watashi Dake. Unfortunately, it was not released until 1993 which... is a damn shame considering this is a harsh noise album (from the 70s). I'll admit that the Tunnel Canary album is more fun to listen to, but, in my opinion, this is far more interesting. All in all, this is a hell of a brainfuck album. |
We got some great picks. I love VtB. I got one.
Karlheinz Stockhausen- Hymnen Hymnen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I'm really being lazy not describing it myself but it's an electronic collection of many national anthems. I guess you could say it's sort of a cross between John Cage and Tangerine Dream. This quote is from the one review on Amazon Quote:
Amazon.com: Karlheinz Stockhausen-Hymnen: Music |
Thomas Nöla Et Son Orchestre - ¡Vanity Is a Sin!
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...AANRuUWmI:.jpg this is a very interesting.....kind of experimental/dark folk/neo ragtime just a good listen ok so the poll should be up by the end of the day |
i'll keep the poll open for two more days in hopes that some other people may join in.....please if you want to hear any of these albums and join in on a great discussion with some really great people VOTE!
thanks bob |
poll should be closing today and the Winner is Caroliner!
i'll start the discussion thread anybody who needs a copy of this wondrous album just pm me and i'll get it to you asap |
i think we should start round two of nominations.....i'll add the poll in a few days
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Are we still doing this?
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yes....even if its just you and i.....:)
sorry for the delay this time from me its.... Steven Stapleton and David Tibet - Ocopus http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_B2o-gXUaMw...dt_octopus.png a wonderful example of DaDa-ism |
Nomination http://www.musicfearsatan.com/DSK/ne...ng_(small).jpg Neptune - Gong Lake Neptune are a fantastic experimental noise rock band. Building their own custom-made instruments out of pieces of scrap metal, they exhibit a sound unique in its weezing, throbbing intensity. Gong Lake is something of an Industrial noise album, comprising of angular, off-kilter compositions driven by relentlessly mechanical rhythms and swathes of warped texture. I'm actually struggling to describe this album, guess that's the point of the album club - to discuss the hard-to-explain. I'll leave it there, ending with a declaration of my love for this record. |
Are we going to vote on the older nominations, too?
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no....i was think just re nominate....just to....i guess keep it a bit more fresh.....although if you all want the older nominations in there i'm fine with that.....
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Here's a new one: I Hear a New World (1960/1991) by Joe Meek and the Blue Men http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-new-world.jpg It is widely believed that the avant-garde ventured into rock music around 1966 or '67 with bands such as The Mothers of Invention, Godz, The Red Krayola, The Velvet Underground, and The Monks. Unfortunately, there is one album that is criminally overlooked... I Hear a New World by Joe Meek. Originally, half of the album was released as an EP in 1960, but I would rather we listen to it in its entirety (which was later released in 1991). Essentially, it takes "old fashion" rock/pop and applies elements of avant-garde and electronic music to create a (mostly instrumental) concept album filled with spacey soundscapes. To my knowledge, this is the first album to ever bring experimentation into the realm of rock music. You could also say this is the first psychedelic rock album as well as the first rock concept album. I might be getting ahead of myself by saying that, though... Anyways, it really doesn't matter how many "firsts" this album accomplishes. What matters is is if it's worth listening to and if it's enjoyable. I assure you... it is. It is one of my favorite rock albums of the 60s, and I have listened to it on multiple occasions... |
so i'll get the vote running by sunday....
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I honestly feel that 95% of the credit St.Pepper gets belongs to this album.
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the new poll is UP! (thanks Pedestrian) :)
please VOTE! |
I'm going with Stapleton and Tibet.
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on subject but kind of off.....stu how was the amazing festival you went to?
esp. Divorce? |
Pretty damn superb, some of the bands were insane. Black Abba were mind-blowing and Divorce were great, as was Gross Magic. My favourite band was probably Yugoslavian Boys, they play this noisy-as-hell post-punk and it blew my socks off. Well worth £18.
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Hopefully we'll have more than three votes this time...
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right on stu....i'm glad it was a good time....and i'm jealous about you getting to see Divorce :)
i could not agree more jack :) |
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we'll review the album starting monday..... please vote....even if its just random :) |
IF this is still running, I think I'd like to get involved. The avant garde is probably my favorite genre out there; I have a ton of it and I'm always, ALWAYS looking to find more of it...
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