I think I've made my position pretty clear.

I get what your saying and I don't entirely disagree but I think a line needs to be drawn somewhere before the artist getting final say. There is something to sound that when you hear it you think either music or just sound/noise/ambience, and although the two can cross paths all sound isn't music regardless of the intention.

Is that directed towards me or him?

I don't.

Frownland I agree that it is music but you're not doing a very good job of arguing that point so maybe you should stop pls

Take the wheel oh wise one. If you've noticed I've already stepped it back. I had my fill inthe what is music thread already.

I already made my point and they all ignored it so that's a win in my book. I'm not interested in repeating myself over and over and over and over and over again, especially when, for the most part, they are arguing for the sake of arguing, and this is obviously a troll thread anyway.

This thread is ****ing stupid. I'm dumb for having got involved in the argument at all.