100% Avant-Garde Music
 

This thread is for music that is absolutely avant-garde. By that, I mean the music doesn't sound like anyone else at all, it doesn't co-opt an experimental style and call itself avant-garde (I see this a lot), and brings new ideas to the table.

I'm drawing a pretty hard blank on this so let's see what you guys have to offer.

crickets

I don't want to sound like the genre-police but The Crickets were Rockabilly, not Avant-Garde. :rolleyes:

Wrong. This clearly has funk and free improv elements from the get go.

4'33 is the only true answer, since it doesn't even use music.

You already listened to all those albums?

Is free improv really a genre/musically distinct sound descriptor? That doesn't really make any sense

"we improvise all our music freely, but it is absolutely not free improv"

I just listened to a couple minutes of "Kill Danny Devito"

I don't think this can exist post-the first song that was ever created. That's the only totally original track out there.

And 4'33 too

Now all music either has sound or no sound and it's all been done before.

There's some really outstanding stuff all over the Esmectations page

This thread is off to a great start.

So basically everything else is a remix of these two ;)

Do we really have to get back into how calling 4'33 music is something only pretentious morons would do?

Oh do you have an opinion different than some others :0 :0 :0 :0 :0

I'm agreeing with you a lot today. This is scary.

Oh look, someone with nothing to say is falling back on, "You know, that's just, like, your opinion, man".

P.S. I hope that meme dies.

Oh look, someone who's not allowed to be wrong being a ***got

I didn't have a snappy comeback but yeah it is your opinion, man

Oh look, somebody who's not allowed to be wrong complaining about somebody else who is opinionated and belligerent.

I'm crying

Oh look.

That's pretty avant-garde. Can you record it?

I think no matter what anyone suggests Frownland is going to say for whatever reason that's not what he's talking about:

First shot:

Charles Ives

My knowledge base is limited to 20th-century avant-garde classical, but lately, I've been enjoying a few noteworthy albums:

Harry Partch - The World of Harry Partch (1969) featuring the sidelong composition, "Daphne of the Dunes"

http://i.imgur.com/1lw09btl.jpg

This was an enjoyable follow-up to my first Partch record, Delusion Of The Fury - A Ritual Of Dream And Delusion which was released just two years after TWoHP.

http://i.imgur.com/Hwkod3zl.jpg

I confess I still haven't cracked the cover of his masterwork, Genesis of a Music from 1946. I really need to make the time to read it.

http://i.imgur.com/ARdGIb0l.jpg

John Cage • Christian Wolff (1963) was another rewarding purchase. Side A is Cage's "Cartridge Music" - sounds created from the manipulation of turntable cartridges. This was his first electronic work and is really a significant milestone for collectors of electroacoustic recordings. Side B features three pieces by composer Christian Wolff - "Duo For Violinist and Pianist," "Summer for String Quartet," and Duet II for Horn and Piano." This side is far more pastoral and gentle and serves as a lovely complement to Cage's composition.

http://i.imgur.com/S90JXb3l.jpg

And the third recent purchase was Panorama of Musique Concrète: Works by Henry, Schaeffer and Arthuys (1956). I suspect you are already familiar with this recording, as it appears on numerous musique concrète essentials lists.

http://i.imgur.com/NqU6ypIl.jpg

I'll name one more LP you might enjoy - this one from the Folkways Science sublabel, issued in 1957. Various ‎– Sounds Of New Music showcases compositions by John Cage, Henry Cowell, Vladimir Ussachevsky, Henry Jacobs, and others for a wonderful collection of avant-garde music. But it was track 5 on side A which made me pick this one up - Edgard Varèse's famous Ionization.

http://i.imgur.com/ABHPhRDl.jpg

My apologies if you dismiss these as "old-hat" avant-garde. Modernism and Futurism have come and gone, and you may be seeking novel concepts in new music. But I consider these important works and find them to be wonderfully enjoyable even sixty years after their composition.

Just take a song you like and slow it down to a ridiculous degree. Instant Avant Garde music.

You mean like this?: https://thenumber7.bandcamp.com/track/galaxy-uno

Bull of Heaven did it first.

And ja, OccultHawk, what makes you choose Ives? He definitely changed a lot as far as composition goes, but his music is rooted in tradition.

That's what I figured.

I'm all ears if you think his music (or one of his compositions) is 100% avant-garde.

Justin Bieber's "U Smile (800 x Slower)" will always be my favorite Paulstretch.

Just blogged it but this is killer avant electronic stuff, so it's worth a cross post.

Basta Records in the Netherlands put out this great box set of Philips label Dutch electronic music from the 1950s. Details here.

http://i.imgur.com/dEVU5v7l.jpg

I have some sort of 5 CD box set of early Dutch electronic music but I don't think it's the same music. That's nice on vinyl like that.

Maybe it is the same music

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Popu...release/310002

That's a great CD set, and is far more exhaustive than the vinyl edition. Basta also issued the tracks as ANTHOLOGY OF DUTCH ELECTRONIC TAPE MUSIC VOL. 1 & 2. But I'm fairly certain your copy is the most complete.

Jimi Hendrix