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Paedantic Basterd 04-23-2011 11:26 AM

Giacinto Scelsi
 
Listening to The Orchestra Works 2 as performed by Peter Rundel and the ORF Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra, and this is absolutely blowing my mind. I've had little to do with classical, modern or otherwise, outside of a bit of Rachmaninoff and sparing Scriabin, and neither one prepared me for this.

This is some of the most skin-crawling music I've ever heard. Where do I go with Scelsi after this?

Paedantic Basterd 12-11-2011 10:21 AM



I'm bumping this thread because I just remembered how ****ing sick Scelsi's work is, and a sample would probably help pique interest.

I've only heard the Orchestral Works 2 so far, which I've yet to find a copy of, so I've neglected the remainder of his work, but I get the feeling his piano and viola works are just as worthwhile.

neverasitseems 12-15-2011 06:53 PM

Thank you for sharing this, that was definitely worth my time to listen to!

Engine 12-16-2011 01:45 AM

I was raised by people with disdain for twentieth century composers so I was never exposed to this stuff. I like it though so I hope those in the know will post some more here.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-16-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1133173)
I was raised by people with disdain for twentieth century composers

Child abuse!

As for Scelsi, I really like. Reminds me a lot of Ligeti's more out there works.

Engine 12-19-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1133558)
Child abuse!

:laughing: Seriously! I thought my father would be proud when, as a kid, I tried to talk to him about Rites of Spring but he just kind of smirked and told me that Stravinsky doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1133558)
As for Scelsi, I really like. Reminds me a lot of Ligeti's more out there works.

I found this, and think it's pretty great:

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-19-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1134406)
I found this, and think it's pretty great:

As fantastic as it is, I meant more stuff like this:


Engine 12-19-2011 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1134410)
As fantastic as it is, I meant more stuff like this:


It's not bad but I'm a sucker for fast paced harpsichord music.
What you and Pedestrian have posted seems more like it belongs in the Post Rock thread.

Stephen 12-19-2011 03:12 PM


Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-19-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1134413)
What you and Pedestrian have posted seems more like it belongs in the Post Rock thread.

Remember, also, they're doing this stuff with acoustic instruments. Which is an insane technical difficulty in comparison to making ethereal music by electrified means.

Especially when working with microtones which I believe is only technically achievable with stringed instruments, and electronics. Obviously, however, it's much easier with . Maybe it's possible with piano, but may require very fragile intricate tunings.

unless Scelsi invented his own instruments ala Harry Partch, it must have been a task alone to find string players who were willing, and able, to pull off that style of playing as it's only really possible on fretless string instruments.


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