Johann Sebastian Bach - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Classical
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-11-2012, 10:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
The Music Guru.
 
Burning Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beyond the Wall
Posts: 4,858
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surell View Post
One of my very favorite composers, and my favorite if we're going back to his era and the two that surround it (I know they're something like Baroque, Classical, and Romantic, but i don't know the order). Especially his organ pieces. I've heard there's a ton of symbolism in his composition as well, "numerically and religiously."
That is the order, actually. Good job

Yes, Bach used a lot of symbolism in his music. He also used a motif that spelled out his name, in his music - in American notation, the notes are Bb A C B. Of course, Bach was German, and in German notation, Bb is "B" and B is "H". So the motif to him would be the notes B A C H. This is evident in the Art of Fugue and also in the beginning of his Sinfonia in F minor - though the motif is transposed down one whole tone in this piece (it's Ab G Bb A), it's still the same.

BACH motif - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Burning Down is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2012, 06:54 AM   #22 (permalink)
They/Them
 
TockTockTock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,914
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Down View Post
That is the order, actually. Good job

Yes, Bach used a lot of symbolism in his music. He also used a motif that spelled out his name, in his music - in American notation, the notes are Bb A C B. Of course, Bach was German, and in German notation, Bb is "B" and B is "H". So the motif to him would be the notes B A C H. This is evident in the Art of Fugue and also in the beginning of his Sinfonia in F minor - though the motif is transposed down one whole tone in this piece (it's Ab G Bb A), it's still the same.

BACH motif - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Would you mind sharing a few examples?

Also, Art of Fugue is one of my favorite works of his, and it's rather interesting to see that he used a motif to spell out his name. Very clever.
TockTockTock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2012, 12:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
Killed Laura Palmer
 
ThePhanastasio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ashland, KY
Posts: 1,679
Default

babbychick, post a welcome thread or some ish. You seem cool, but I wanna make sure you're not a bot before I sing your praises.
__________________

It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken
Perhaps they're better left unsung
ThePhanastasio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 06:44 PM   #24 (permalink)
Master, We Perish
 
Surell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Havin a good time, rollin to the bottom.
Posts: 3,710
Default

oh that clever bastard. But how exactly does religious symbolism work in a non lyrical medium? Numerical as well, but i could sort of see that more easily since composition requires time signature writing and whatnot.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhateverDude View Post
Laser beams, psychedelic hats, and for some reason kittens. Surrel reminds me of kittens.
^if you wanna know perfection that's it, you dumb shits
Spoiler for guess what:
|i am a heron i ahev a long neck and i pick fish out of the water w/ my beak if you dont repost this comment on 10 other pages i will fly into your kitchen tonight and make a mess of your pots and pans
Surell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 03:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
They/Them
 
TockTockTock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,914
Default

I'm still in awe at The Art of Fugue...

All of the melodies in each Contrapuntus seem so different (almost contrastingly so) and jumbled up, and yet... they still make a completely coherent piece of music. Wonderful mix of complexity, beauty, and innovation. Truly one of the best Baroque-era classical works I have ever listened to.

Highly recommended.

TockTockTock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2012, 10:33 AM   #26 (permalink)
Groupie
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 13
Default

Hmm I'd like to get into classical, is this something I should approach as a classical newbie!?
pulpcult is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2012, 11:03 AM   #27 (permalink)
The Music Guru.
 
Burning Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beyond the Wall
Posts: 4,858
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Pat View Post


Would you mind sharing a few examples?

Also, Art of Fugue is one of my favorite works of his, and it's rather interesting to see that he used a motif to spell out his name. Very clever.
Sure, and since you know the Art of Fugue, you will probably know the last Contrapunctus (#14, Fuga a 3 Soggetti, BWV 1080), which was unfinished. The subject of this fugue, which you will hear at the beginning, is the BACH motif. It's amazing that he could just put his signature right into the music!

Burning Down is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2012, 03:00 PM   #28 (permalink)
They/Them
 
TockTockTock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,914
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pulpcult View Post
Hmm I'd like to get into classical, is this something I should approach as a classical newbie!?
As far as first-timers of Bach are concerned... I would suggest Glenn Gould's cover of the Goldberg Variations. (I speak from experience).
TockTockTock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2012, 08:24 AM   #29 (permalink)
Groupie
 
lecterz12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 42
Default

hey! give me some of those delicous songs from bach!!! XD plssss u have any links??
lecterz12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2012, 09:06 AM   #30 (permalink)
The Music Guru.
 
Burning Down's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beyond the Wall
Posts: 4,858
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lecterz12 View Post
hey! give me some of those delicous songs from bach!!! XD plssss u have any links??
Just look up JS Bach on YouTube. Bingo.
Burning Down is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.