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kelleyrivera 09-24-2013 06:00 AM

Classical music
 
Why is classical music so popular any suggestion ?

Mr. Charlie 10-16-2013 08:35 AM

Because it expresses the many complexities of the human condition with more subtlety than any other form of music, and being purely instrumental means it is more personable and universal. In mans eyes classical music can mean the langauge of life, of nature, of the heavens, the universe, or whatever you want it to mean.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 10-17-2013 09:24 PM

There's a zillion reasons why classical music is popular.

flora99 11-03-2013 01:38 PM

Why I love music
 
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Originally Posted by kelleyrivera (Post 1368677)
Why is classical music so popular any suggestion ?

On friday the 14th of june 2013, I met Julia Fischer at the Pleyer Concert Hall in Paris :-) . She's an awsome violonist, talented and nice. She also plays the piano. She's german and I had so much fun listening at her concert. I have now an autograph from her and it's such an honor. I was impressed by her great performance and the happiness that she felt playing :-D . I decided to work more and more my music instrument which is the flute. I hope that one day we could share a musical experience together. That the reason why, I think that music is a universal language that everybody who wants can understand.

BongoFury 11-03-2013 04:19 PM

If you ever get the chance to see a symphony show, go because it's a great experience. It's amazing how powerful orchestral music is played live.

Dulce 11-08-2013 03:51 AM

it can put you in a more relaxing mood. it makes ya feel so damn good. it's an amazing rollercoaster ride. cheers.

p-bo 11-09-2013 08:11 AM

I think a huge part of its longevity would be the fact that the performer usually willingly takes a back seat to the composer. Whether it's Bernstein in Vienna or Karajan in Berlin, it's still Beethoven. The music is timeless, influential, and beautiful. It doesn't matter how much current popular music saturates the scene: the greats will always remain. If 300 years from now, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, and Toby Keith are held in the same regards as Beethoven, Schubert, and Bach, then I'm happy now that I won't be a part of that world.

johnkeats 11-13-2013 11:53 PM

Classical music in essence is the best part of the music world,it dates back to very old times where the music used to be played in the age old kingdoms in Asia & Middle east. It gives complete relaxation to the body, mind and soul. The melodies moves up and down just like a sine wave. Sometimes high and other time low the music brings out the best from the performer. There are lot of places where you can learn but you have to carefully choose the best place to learn and understand the music which is not so easy as it sounds.

Jegor 01-22-2014 04:21 PM

Classical music is magical, full of inspiring notes and great history ;)

Vince 01-27-2014 05:29 PM

I'd say classical music is very unpopular. Unfortunately people don't usually delve that far into it, only touching the pop hits of Mozart and Beethoven.

Some off the top of my head to check out:

Shostakovich - 10th symphony 2nd move., 5th symphony
Sibelius - 5th and 7th, Swan of Tuonela
Stravinsky - Rite of Spring, Firebird
Debussy - La Mer, everything for piano

Body123 02-21-2014 09:26 AM

Hello, i think Classical music is bewitching,impressive,motivating and full of inspiring notes with immense history.i really love the classical music.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 02-21-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaGClub (Post 1418937)
But overall, people like it not because of the music, but because of it's history and social aspects.

Uhhh, I don't think so.

DoesntReallyMatter 02-21-2014 07:57 PM

One question, first:
What are the fundamental parts of music?
Look it up, if you have the time...or interest.
If I may be so bold? Blunt? Whatever, not trying to sound cocky here...
Start with: 'Copland, Aaron (1939; Revised 1957), What to Listen For in Music'


My opinion:
'Classical' music is complex, dynamic, expresses a story without a single lyric.
So many patterns. Changing, flowing...

Also, thee are many kinds of classical music. So...

Pet_Sounds 03-01-2014 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kelleyrivera (Post 1368677)
Why is classical music so popular any suggestion ?

Because many people (myself included) enjoy listening to it.

Pet_Sounds 03-01-2014 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by p-bo (Post 1382586)
If 300 years from now, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, and Toby Keith are held in the same regards as Beethoven, Schubert, and Bach, then I'm happy now that I won't be a part of that world.

:beer:

It's interesting to note how many people have heard of Beethoven, but how few of brilliant composers such as Dvorak. I think the situation will be similar in 300 years - everyone will have heard of the Beatles, but bands like the Doors and the Beach Boys will be forgotten.

Emily2 06-17-2014 01:40 AM

Classical music
 
I think classical music can make people relax and it also can makes people feel comfortable when they got nightmare.

buntter 06-24-2014 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kelleyrivera (Post 1368677)
Why is classical music so popular any suggestion ?

:rofl: :bonkhead:

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Ian Moore 07-25-2014 01:59 AM

Classical music needs a makeover.
 
I don't think the music is very unpopular;I think that the image of classical music is something that people don't like. The attraction of pop/rock music to the young is that it both imitates their own image style and is something that they can aspire to. E.g. Work a little harder and you can buy the clothing, have your hair styled that way, etc..you couldn't become a concert pianist in a few months!
If I am perfectly honest not many people think deeply about the actual sound if the music they listen to. Their present mood,their memories,their desires,the function of the music(e.g. celebrations like weddings,funerals...) and the image/lifestyle presented appear to be more important.

Mahmoud95 11-04-2014 11:52 AM

Its relaxing and it takes me back for a moment to somewhere I would like to go. It gives a glimpse of the past .

Zack 11-18-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1374103)
Because it expresses the many complexities of the human condition with more subtlety than any other form of music, and being purely instrumental means it is more personable and universal. In mans eyes classical music can mean the langauge of life, of nature, of the heavens, the universe, or whatever you want it to mean.

But see, I could say the same thing about the music of, say, Greg Brown, a folk singer-songwriter, really more of a poet. Man can't sing to save his life, but his music is some of the most emotive stuff I have ever heard. Every song speaks to some vital (or maybe frivolous) aspect of the complexity of human life, every line is subtle, full of meaning and depth, every chorus is intensely personal, yet feels that way to anyone who has ever lived, and so is entirely universal.

To me, Greg Brown could be the language of life, of nature, the heavens the universe. It's whatever I want it to mean.

But, is it more subtle, and universal, and meaningful and heavenly than exquisitely plucked shamisen notes, one of a time, meant, each one, to be considered on it's own, for it's own beauty, for the tiny variances in it's tone?Is the fast-paced, progress-driven, mathematically-derived music of Western European composers, better? Is it more universal?

A man could have never heard a shamisen and still be entranced, but I can nearly guarantee you someone who has no background in progressive chordal harmony will not be entranced as easily by the shouting chorus at the end of Beethoven's 9th.

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Originally Posted by flora99 (Post 1380270)
That the reason why, I think that music is a universal language that everybody who wants can understand.

It's a nice thought, but that is both equally true and untrue for any music, really. Western Classical music, it's harmony and it's bland, logical, cold, mathematical tuning system sounds great to those who grew up with it, or with the tuning and harmony it created.

On the other hand, that tuning and that harmony used to sound awful to much of the world including most Europeans, with their own tuning and harmonic systems. However, due to European Imperialism essentially enslaving much of the globe, destroying cultures and forcing Western ideals on local populaces, Western Equal-temperment tuning and progressive harmony has been thrust upon most of the world, so that even other culture's classical traditions adopt it.

But, the universality of Western European classical music is due, not to the glorious, ideal, better-than-the-rest nature of the music itself, but to the power of European aggression, and the horrible efficiency of European guns.

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Originally Posted by BongoFury (Post 1380295)
If you ever get the chance to see a symphony show, go because it's a great experience. It's amazing how powerful orchestral music is played live.

Oh god, yes. As a huge metal-fan, whose friend's are mostly metal-heads, I can tell you that a symphony orchestra can be far more crushingly powerful than a few drop-tuned guitars, a bass, drumset and some amps. Not louder, but far more intense.

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Originally Posted by Dulce (Post 1382153)
it can put you in a more relaxing mood. it makes ya feel so damn good. it's an amazing rollercoaster ride. cheers.

But again, the fan of any form of music will say that. My coworker was listening to Powerman 5000 and Chevelle all morning, talking about how soothing and upbeat he finds them.

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Originally Posted by johnkeats (Post 1384284)
Classical music in essence is the best part of the music world,it dates back to very old times where the music used to be played in the age old kingdoms in Asia & Middle east. It gives complete relaxation to the body, mind and soul. The melodies moves up and down just like a sine wave. Sometimes high and other time low the music brings out the best from the performer. There are lot of places where you can learn but you have to carefully choose the best place to learn and understand the music which is not so easy as it sounds.

Classical music, as in the common practice period and today's composers basically vamping on similar material, is only about 300 years old. Before that there was gradually increasing complexity in the medieval chant music and early polyphonic styles, but that still doesn't take us back very far.

Sure, that chant music was derived from the Byzantine system, but we don't really use any of the same modes, scales, tetrachords, etc, and the system is completely alien to anything Mozart ever did.

As far as Western Classical Music stemming from Asia and the Middle East? No, not really, no. I suppose you could make some vague claims about inter-relatedness, but still, not anymore than any other two musics. People used to think that early Gregorian chant came from Judaic Psalmody, but that's been disproved for decades. 'Twar the Byzantines.

Granted, Byzantium culture basically stemmed back with the birth of all Culture in that half of the Eurasian Landmass, in Egypt and the Fertile Crescent, the Indus and the Tigris, so in that sense I suppose you could say that Western European Classical music of the 17th through 19th centuries was originally Asian in nature, but that doesn't really mean much. The first music that would in any way be considered a related progenitor of the music in question is that of the modal Church chants of Byzantium...

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Originally Posted by Vince (Post 1410939)
I'd say classical music is very unpopular. Unfortunately people don't usually delve that far into it, only touching the pop hits of Mozart and Beethoven.

Some off the top of my head to check out:

Shostakovich - 10th symphony 2nd move., 5th symphony
Sibelius - 5th and 7th, Swan of Tuonela
Stravinsky - Rite of Spring, Firebird
Debussy - La Mer, everything for piano

I agree, to most, "classical" is Bach, Handl, Mozart, Haydyn, Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner, DONE. The don't go farther back, the don't explore the common practice period, and the sure as hell don't get any closer to the current than, maybe, maybe, the Impressionists.

Usually, when people tell me they love classical, they meant he love what is essentially the Classical Top 40. The hits that stream on the radio. Just like most "Rap Lovers" recognize Eminem and Rakim and Macklemore, but haven't the foggiest about someone like Aesop Rock, and couldn't tell you who the heck Eric B is. (Even for all there love of "Follow the Leader.")

But still, the four you've listed, along with the pieces you've chosen, are huge, monolithic composers and compositions, the kind that figurehead in music history course. I mean, heck, Firebird and Rite of Spring were in Disney's Fantasia movies! (Actually, I'm pretty sure Shostakovich was in there somewhere too... :) )

I mean, all that stuff could almost be considered a hit, or at least making the charts. Why not some of "The Five" outside of Mussorgsky and Rimsky-Korsakov? Or, if you want to stick with the biggest names, why not something like Stravinsky's severely under-noted "Symphonies of Wind Instruments?"

Why not enter the 20th century, heck, even the 21st? It's not all Cage's statement pieces, and Stockhausen's bizarre tape manipulations, and Glass and Reich with endless streams of modal arpeggios and repeated notes. It's not all records meant to be ruined and then listened to, or dodecophony...

How about Aaron Jay Kernis' "Symphony in Waves." Gorgeous, beautiful, emotional piece. How about Georg Fredrich Haas' "In Vain" if you can bear to listen to something not tuned in Western equal temperament. (You should, the tuning system we're used to now has been around for centuries, but wasn't really accepted as the standard until about 150 years ago. It's a new thing, the way notes are currently tuned, in this genre.) How about Górecki's "Copernicus" Symphony?

There's so much out there, in "classical" music, and most people don't even, if you'll pardon the cliché, scratch the surface. Even those who scratch it, tend not to really gouge out big chunks!

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1421635)
It's interesting to note how many people have heard of Beethoven, but how few of brilliant composers such as Dvorak. I think the situation will be similar in 300 years - everyone will have heard of the Beatles, but bands like the Doors and the Beach Boys will be forgotten.

Sure, Beethoven is a household name, but I bet all those people who don't know Dvorak by name still recognize, say the theme to the Largo of his Symphony "From the New World."

But yes, Elvis, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, unfortunately probably AC/DC, Aerosmith, Nirvana, and a bunch of others, those guys will be in history books of 20th century music in the future, the less innovative or emblematic ones, not so much.

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Originally Posted by Mahmoud95 (Post 1504469)
Its relaxing and it takes me back for a moment to somewhere I would like to go. It gives a glimpse of the past .

As would say a devotee of passive listening of any genre of music, albeit with different specifics. Over and over again, it is shown that the deciding factor in most people's choice of music is familiarity. If you grow up with it, you'll like it. (Yes, some grow up with Country and prefer classical, but really, it's all the same tuning, harmony, rhythms, time signatures, timbral preferences in large part, melodic structure, and general form.)

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People try to make Western European classical out to be the music of all musics in a thousand different ways.

"The timbre is clearer." Well, I might say the timbre is bland, homogeneous, and overly pruned of all interesting upper partials.

"It's so complex and structured." try telling that to the devoted practitioner of the classical music of any other culture, and they'll tell you the same thing.

"It's so emotional." All music is. Hell, I've seen people inn my town waaaaay more emotionally over-driven on Dubstep than I have on classical.

"It's so subtle." See my passage above about Japanese music. Classical music is wonderful and above-the-par on many counts, but subtlety is not one of them.

"It's the most beautiful." Said everyone who ever like any music. Beauty is almost all familiarity, and in the only universal sense, it seems to be structural harmoniousness of the sound, another area where Equal temperament is at best a compromise, at worst a butchery of a beautiful, natural purity of sound.

Then there are all the wonderful qualities that Common Practice classical doesn't even TRY to have. Vibrant Timbre, Rhythmic Complexity, Improvisation, Percussion in any real sense, Heterophony, any sort of Interesting or adaptable tuning...

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Originally Posted by DoesntReallyMatter (Post 1419058)
'Classical' music is complex, dynamic, expresses a story without a single lyric.
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Classical Music is complex only in it's theory, not so much in it's performance or listening, at least compared to the classical traditions of other musical cultures.

If you mean "utilizes dynamics" then yes, Western European Classical from Beethoven on does generally get both louder and softer and than many other musics. If you mean changing and vital and amorphous, then the same could be said of nearly any culture, again...

But, But, But, two people in this thread have seemed to make the claim that classical music has no lyrics????

Have you ever heard any classical music???? :D That stuff is FULL of lyrics. I mean, it's descended from a purely vocal tradition of sacred music, which was composed based nearly entirely on Latin lyrics from the sacred text of their religious book.

No Lyrics??? Huh? Waaaah?????

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1374830)
There's a zillion reasons why classical music is popular.

But, really, this guy has the answer. Nearly every human on the planet likes at least some form of music, and I bet they'd all have different reasons. But I bet all those reasons would basically boil down to, "I like it."

Drebion 12-09-2014 02:32 PM

Because it's deep


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