Music Banter - Karlheinz Stockhausen!

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1830505)

That's incredible you knew Stockhausen. I was fortunate enough to attend a few lectures by Vladimir Ussachevsky but only ever asked him one question and that was during an official Q&A thing. I asked him a bumbled question about his recording techniques and felt terribly embarrassed afterward. It was obvious I just wanted to talk to him but was too stupid to come up with a respectable question.

For whatever it's worth over the last year or so I've become more and more enamared with Olivier Messiaen.

I have no idea where it ranks among all his works but I love Xenakis' percussion music.

Yes, he was a very kind friend the last 7 years of his life and I have lots of wonderful memories.

I had the chance to study with Xenakis beginning in the late '90s, but he was so sick by that time,
that Gerard Pape was doing most of the teaching at Les Ateliers UPIC.

Messiaen was a teacher to both Stockhausen and Xenakis, so it would be natural to gravitate towards his work.

If you have any of your own music I can check out online I'd be interested.

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Originally Posted by Spectralmusic (Post 1830510)

I do think Xenakis achieved something (as far as electronic music goes) even greater and more immersive but it's all subjective.

I love practically all - yes, I think, really all of Xenakis' work.
The lesser of his work is leaps and bounds over most of the new crop of composers,
but, you're right, it's a subjective thing based on what you are wanting to get out of it
and also how much effort you're willing to put into it.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1830521)

If you have any of your own music I can check out online I'd be interested.

Thanks. I'll think about where I can send you. :D

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1830522)

I have almost everything you can get (maybe minus un-necessary multiples of the same piece, though I have plenty of those), over 120 individual works in my collection.
There isn't a single work I dislike that I've heard of his, granted some are more greater than others but he was a real genius and mastermind in contemporary music, nobody like him :love:

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1830521)

If you have any of your own music I can check out online I'd be interested.

I second this question

I'm working on a large scale (not commissioned or anything) electronic work as we speak, I'll send you guys a link when it's done (I intend to publish it among other works too)

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I will disagree on the Xenakis statement tho.
My third favorite work of all time is his Bohor from 1962.

What are your first two?

I listened to Orchester Finalisten and Lichter Wasser (both scenes from their respective operas) last night and damn do they have a certain ethereal je ne sais quoi, really gets me on an aesthetic level, stimulates my mind a lot (if that's the right way to say it).

Licht gets too overlooked because of it's size (and I guess because none of the operas have had a truly proper staging because it's near impossible....unless they where turned into opera films). Taken scene by scene, there is a lot to experience, to learn and to get from the cycle. He really put everything into it!!

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Originally Posted by Spectralmusic (Post 1830541)

...(I guess because none of the operas have had a truly proper staging because it's near impossible....unless they where turned into opera films).

Yes, they're large productions, but actually every one of the operas have been staged and premiered - each on an enormous scale.