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Ayn Marx 06-10-2022 01:51 AM

Drugs and Music
 
Terry Riley, was regarded in the 60's as a classical composer. I'm not sure we'd place him there today.
This was revolutionary in the 60's, a time when LSD, mescaline, peyote, psilocybin, and pot were opening minds. Experimentation, breaking out of the status quo was happening everywhere, freaking out those who didn't understand what was happening .
However there's a long list of classical composers who did drugs, Stravinsky, Bernstein, Berlioz and my favourite (although we're not sure which 'herbs' she indulged in) Abbess Hildegard Von Bingen.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy3W-3HPMWg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YTOiJ-zjP0

https://theconversation.com/the-link...-science-89132

https://popularmusic.pressbooks.com/...and-the-1960s/

Ayn Marx 06-11-2022 06:31 PM

Wrong thread. . .

The Batlord 06-11-2022 07:07 PM

I think it would annoy Aryan Marx if the mods deleted these pointless threads and put all the posts in the "What Are You Listening To?" thread where they belong. So you should do that.

SGR 06-12-2022 12:46 PM

Musicians did drugs. Got it.

robhr 06-12-2022 02:30 PM

I need drugs to make music.

I can do other creative stuff without but yeah my music has been suffering since I moved in with my parents and can't do drugs.

Ayn Marx 06-12-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by robhr (Post 2207201)
I need drugs to make music.

I can do other creative stuff without but yeah my music has been suffering since I moved in with my parents and can't do drugs.

‘Drugs’ covers a wide field. Without maryjane my artistic flair fails me.
However, I’ve been told by viewers that without them being stoned they can’t make any sense out of my art. But should art ‘make sense’ ? Reminds me of working in an open kitchen many decades ago where one of my works hung just on the other side. A group of art lecturers standing in front of my work gave a detailed analysis of what it all meant. Hearing the pretentious bullshXt they came out with I told them they had no idea what they were talking about “How would you know” etc was the response. I took great joy in telling them I was the artist.
They departed in a huff.


Now back to the music. . . .

Ayn Marx 06-12-2022 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR (Post 2207189)
Musicians did drugs. Got it.

Many thanks for your in depth contribution.

Ayn Marx 06-12-2022 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robhr (Post 2207201)
I need drugs to make music.

I can do other creative stuff without but yeah my music has been suffering since I moved in with my parents and can't do drugs.


There’s a danger we could wander a long way off topic, whatever that is, but whenever anyone uses ‘do drugs’ I’m always left wondering which ones.

The Batlord 06-12-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2207208)
There’s a danger we could wander a long way off topic, whatever that is, but whenever anyone uses ‘do drugs’ I’m always left wondering which ones.
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The obvious answer being "the ones that they do".

robhr 06-12-2022 06:25 PM

Oh yeah I didn’t say.

My drugs are mostly pot, psychedelics and MDMA.

Ayn Marx 06-12-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by robhr (Post 2207214)
Oh yeah I didn’t say.

My drugs are mostly pot, psychedelics and MDMA.

Psychedelics cover a wide range. So much sold today, for instance, as LSD, is no better, and sometimes more dangerous than, horse tranquilliser. If however you’re out there collecting you own peyote etc, bless you. As to Methylenedioxymethamphetamine enjoy the warm & cuddly . . . . . .
I’m old enough to remember MANDRAX. Sold as a sedative it had many a shocked husband returning from a late evening at the office to be jumped on by the Mrs at the front door. Me, I seduced the entire Murrumbeena Firsts football team (minus one who ran off screaming ‘Youz lot are a bunch of fukin poofs’). Highly addictive though and soon taken off the market.
Back on the subject of drugs and music it’s always interested me the frequent connection between certain drugs & certain types of music. The Stones for instance somehow managed to stay in tune smacked off their heads. Other groups into heroin couldn’t even figure out what key they were supposed to be playing in. Classical musicians seldom play off their faces but classical composers were often off the planet when composing .

robhr 06-12-2022 07:53 PM

Yeah I’ve had LSD that most certainly was not LSD.

My favourites are the 2Cs, ketamine and shrooms, but I’ll do any psychedelics.

The Batlord 06-12-2022 09:32 PM

Ayo is this that crazy lady's husband? The one who wouldn't shut up about the Huguenots?

Marie Monday 06-13-2022 01:55 AM

Lol that thought entered my head too. But no, he's gay and Australian

Frownland 06-13-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2207230)
Ayo is this that crazy lady's husband? The one who wouldn't shut up about the Huguenots?

Nah he's the one with the tiny Captain America avatar.

SGR 06-13-2022 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2207230)
Ayo is this that crazy lady's husband? The one who wouldn't shut up about the Huguenots?

That's literally what I was thinking when I saw the comics he posted in the queer corner thread lol

tinadawson 12-17-2023 02:11 AM

I don't want to express any opinion regarding drugs now, as I have never tried any. But that's a fact that some music written under drug experience is very catchy and mesmerizing.

mabres 02-08-2024 10:50 AM

Yes, a lot of musicians use drugs, and a lot of them die because of overdose.

Jonathan1998 02-27-2025 11:42 AM

I think the drug and music is no match things

AlexRivers 01-03-2026 07:04 AM

Interesting point. I agree that Riley was seen as classical in the ’60s, but today he sits more in that minimalist / experimental space between genres. And you’re right — experimentation (musical and otherwise) was everywhere back then, not just in “non-classical” circles. Plenty of so-called classical composers were pushing boundaries long before the ’60s, with or without chemical inspiration. Labels tend to shift much more than the music itself.

nethanpaul 08-06-2026 09:51 AM

People often think that musical innovation is connected to altered states. However the thing that Terry Riley is really known for is not his connection to the counterculture. His minimalist ideas and rhythmic structures in music. Many composers have thought outside the box in their ways with or, without using substances and it is the music of these composers that people still enjoy today. The music of Terry Riley is an example of this and it continues to inspire people who listen to music.

jadis 08-11-2026 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2207243)
Lol that thought entered my head too. But no, he's gay and Australian

I like how the tone sounds a bit like NY Post reporting about poor Mojtaba


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