Mirrorball95

Im glad you recognise that his age has nothing to do with him supposedly being a 'hack' as you call it. What you on about- 'didnt make stupid statements'.
Even if they did you cant exactly talk!
Dylan & Cash are both excellent songwriters and singers & you should have more respect.

I disagree with the people who say Dylan's voice is 'completely shot' in his most recent material.
Ok it isnt as 'lively' (if you like) on the likes of 'Desire' but that was 30 odd years ago and he is now in his late 60s so it is to be expected.

Also I dont find it normal to refer to someones age when it is completely unrelated/unnescessary to do so when discussing a totally different aspect of that person.

I find this intriuging & prompts me to ask you if you didnt like a 'black' artist for instance would you draw upon the colour of their skin or their ethnic origin & then try to pass it off as 'normal'.

Think about it, I know its not the same thing on the 'extreme-o-meter' side of things but it is the same concept/mentality.

Finally let me ask you, are you just 'arguing for the sake of it'?

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sleepy jack

That's stupid. You can't juxtapose ethnicity and age and treat it like they effect musical equally. They don't. Ethnicity is completely irrelevant to musical quality while age on the other hand isn't. People can go senile or just lost touch as they grow old and the same thing can happen to musicians; ignoring their age as a factor based on some misguided beliefs on ageism would be retarded particularly if they've begun "slipping" as they've grown older or like many artists (a la Madonna, Rolling Stones, AC/DC) been pulling some embarrassing stunts/live shows in a desperate attempt to stay "relevant."

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Comus

The American recordings are brilliant, so is Dylans 60's and 70's work
Nothing wrong with his voice, there is however so much wrong with his delivery, songwriting and choice of melodies.

Old Hack defines him perfectly, becuase he is old and a hack, even though they are completely unrelated.

What the **** does colour have to do with anything? I'm sorry but bringing that up is pretty racist.

You're the one arguing, not me, I made an opinion and you dissagreed and rightfully posted such, however that makes you the starter of the argument, so I'm going to ask you the same thing.

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Mirrorball95

Aye man, thats sort of a cross between his gospel stuff and his move back into his usual stuff. I like it.
Have you heard another called 'Knocked Out Loaded'(1986), its the one after Empire. Theres an excellent stand out track on it called 'Brownsville Girl' which runs in at about 11 mins

Also another album which i went to a lot of hassle to get but wasnt as good as I was hoping is 'Down In The Groove' (1988). He does a cover of Bryan Ferry's 'Let's Stick Together' which wears pretty thin after the first few listens.. as for the rest of the album its alright.

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5-Track

I used to cover Brownsville Girl pretty regularly...

"They Killed Him" and "License To Kill" are on Knocked Out Loaded, aren't they? And the album title maybe comes from "Junko Podner"... just a guess...

I am less familiar with Down In The Groove, I have heard it but couldn't tell you offhand what tunes are on it

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Mirrorball95

Really aye? Its a great song.
See since I've started talking about 'Empire Burlesque' & 'Knocked Out Loaded', I took them in when I was on the nightshift last night and listened to them both about 2 or 3 times each. I came to the conclusion that although they are both great albums, 'Knocked Out Loaded' is definitely the best.
Best tracks on Empire Burlesque- 'Tight Connection To My Heart', 'I'll Remember You', 'Clean Cut Kid', 'Trust Yourself' 'Emotionally Yours'.

Best tracks on Knocked Out Loaded- 'You Wanna Ramble', 'They Killed Him', 'Driftin' Too Far From The Shore', Precious Memories' (which has a reggae feel to it), 'Brownsville Girl', 'Got My Mind Made Up' (which he actually wrote with Tom Petty).

As for where the title of the album originates, I have no idea, but I remember vaguely reading something similar to what you said.

'They Killed Him' is on 'Knocked Out Loaded' but as for 'Liscense To Kill'- thats from 'Infidels' which is another great album. (which was produced with Mark Knopfler & I think he perhaps plays on a couple of the tracks).

Personaly, 'Desire' & 'Blood On The Tracks' aside, I think the 80s was his most consistent period & definitely the period I listen to most/perhaps on par to present.

Down With The Groove is alright like but not really worth talking about much.
Theres some funny songs like 'Ugliest Girl In The World' but nothing special.

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Love Bob Dylan, especially the early stuff.

Mirrorball95

Have you heard any of his later stuff? I much prefer it in comaparison to his earlier stuff, say sort of mid 70s (Desire/Blood On The Tracks) onwards.
I have mostly all of his albums- bar a few I'm missing from roundabout the early 70s & the other 2 'gospel' albums (I have 'Saved' which isnt as bad as Its made out to be)
I still love the 'Freewheelin' Album though.

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Son of JayJamJah

I like the later Dylan too, but I still think, Highway 61,Freewheelin, Blobde on Blonde and Blood on the Tracks are his best stuff.

Did you see my Freewheelin' review dedicated to you? Wondering what your thoughts on the album were.

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