Vladimir Oidupaa Oiun

TockTockTock · 03-19-2013, 09:33 PM

There isn't too much information on this man, but from what I can gather... he was a protest songwriter/throat-singer from Tuva who ended up being incarcerated (for about 34 years off and on) due to the Tuvan government's growing fear of his influence. Either way, I'm a tremendous fan of his album, Divine Music from a Jail (1999), which was supposedly composed and/or recorded during his imprisonment. Who really knows, though? The differences between fact and legend are blurred when regarding his life and his music.

Anyways... it's such a unique and emotional album... There really isn't anything quite like it. In fact, his music apparently created a branch of Tuvan throat-singing which was appropriately named "Oidupaa style."

Any thoughts?

Also... if anyone knows more about this man, then I would love to hear what you have to say.

Lisnaholic · 03-23-2013, 08:10 AM

By a strange coincidence, Cenotaph has come across an album which is also Frownland´s winning nomination from the latest FAIR club poll:-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

I'll nominate another throat singing album since the last one was so popular. It's Oidupaa Vladimir Oiun's Divine Music From a Jail. It's vocals and accordian, written and recorded during Oidupaa's Serbian imprisonment. It's a gorgeous album and it has some of the best throat singing I've ever heard.

So we have a groundswell of interest in this guy, and two good reasons to check this album out.

Lisnaholic · 03-24-2013, 05:23 PM

^ Yours is an extraordinarily knowledgeable post, rostasi ! I wonder how you know so much about Tuvan singing and Asian accordian styles.

In comparison, I´m a total ignoramus and can´t really tell good throat-singing from bad. From what Cenotaph says about this guy´s incarceration, there is a tragic story behind this album, which made me want to like it. Unfortunately for me, though, the timing is bad. I´ve recently been playing into the ground three albums by Huun Huur Tu,( http://www.musicbanter.com/country-f...n-huur-tu.html ) and feel like I need a rest from Tuvan music for a few months. So, on the basis of what I´ve heard, I´m afraid I´m just going for OK with this album - a vote which has more to do with my mood than with Oiudupaa´s merits as an artist.

bernard666 · 04-04-2013, 08:17 PM

this is acutally really cool. thanks man.

**Frownland** · 08-03-2016, 06:08 PM

Necrobump. I was wondering if anybody had any information about what landed Oidupaa in jail?

Also, I recently figured how to do the Oidupaa style kargyraa.

grindy · 08-03-2016, 06:21 PM

He's usually presented as having been in jail for being a political dissident, but I've read on several russian forums that it was apparently for murder and statutory rape.
Couldn't find any sources on this though.

**Frownland** · 08-03-2016, 06:25 PM

Oh ****, I just found this when doing some more research.

RIP Vladimir Oidupaa 1949-2013 | Fusica

I had no idea

.

grindy · 08-03-2016, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

Oh ****, I just found this when doing some more research.

RIP Vladimir Oidupaa 1949-2013 | Fusica

I had no idea

.

You just forgot.

http://www.musicbanter.com/country-f...ml#post1498206

**Frownland** · 08-03-2016, 06:30 PM

Oidupaa deserves to be mourned twice.

I've pretty much heard the same thing as you for his imprisonment. Unfortunately, I'm thinking it's the latter since he was so popular and it's not too unlikely that his fans would invent tales of him being a political prisoner.

Inna Selez · 09-15-2016, 11:09 AM

Interesting. Here is amazing throat-singing style performance.

View Poll Results: Divine Music From A Jail by Oiduppa Vladimir Oiun
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03-19-2013, 09:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Vladimir Oidupaa Oiun There isn't too much information on this man, but from what I can gather... he was a protest songwriter/throat-singer from Tuva who ended up being incarcerated (for about 34 years off and on) due to the Tuvan government's growing fear of his influence. Either way, I'm a tremendous fan of his album, Divine Music from a Jail (1999), which was supposedly composed and/or recorded during his imprisonment. Who really knows, though? The differences between fact and legend are blurred when regarding his life and his music. Anyways... it's such a unique and emotional album... There really isn't anything quite like it. In fact, his music apparently created a branch of Tuvan throat-singing which was appropriately named "Oidupaa style." Any thoughts? Also... if anyone knows more about this man, then I would love to hear what you have to say.

03-24-2013, 05:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ Yours is an extraordinarily knowledgeable post, rostasi ! I wonder how you know so much about Tuvan singing and Asian accordian styles. In comparison, I´m a total ignoramus and can´t really tell good throat-singing from bad. From what Cenotaph says about this guy´s incarceration, there is a tragic story behind this album, which made me want to like it. Unfortunately for me, though, the timing is bad. I´ve recently been playing into the ground three albums by Huun Huur Tu,( http://www.musicbanter.com/country-f...n-huur-tu.html ) and feel like I need a rest from Tuvan music for a few months. So, on the basis of what I´ve heard, I´m afraid I´m just going for OK with this album - a vote which has more to do with my mood than with Oiudupaa´s merits as an artist. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

08-03-2016, 06:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Necrobump. I was wondering if anybody had any information about what landed Oidupaa in jail? Also, I recently figured how to do the Oidupaa style kargyraa. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-03-2016, 06:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	He's usually presented as having been in jail for being a political dissident, but I've read on several russian forums that it was apparently for murder and statutory rape. Couldn't find any sources on this though. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

04-04-2013, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
bernard666 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 16	this is acutally really cool. thanks man.

08-03-2016, 06:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Oh ***, I just found this when doing some more research. RIP Vladimir Oidupaa 1949-2013 \| Fusica I had no idea . __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

08-03-2016, 06:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Oidupaa deserves to be mourned twice. I've pretty much heard the same thing as you for his imprisonment. Unfortunately, I'm thinking it's the latter since he was so popular and it's not too unlikely that his fans would invent tales of him being a political prisoner. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-15-2016, 11:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Inna Selez Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 728	Interesting. Here is amazing throat-singing style performance.