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VEGANGELICA 05-06-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scissorman (Post 819841)
So I'm adding these two to the list. They have been extremely popular lately, I personally don't know why, but maybe the genre just isn't my thing. They are actually sisters


Wow, Scissorman...those sisters' songs are perfect examples of a genre of music that I really, really, really, really, REALLY don't like, either! What genre *is* it? It sounds jazzy to me. The radio here plays similar sometimes.

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Originally Posted by dankrsta (Post 858130)
I would like to add some Serbian New Wave, post-punk and the like. Belgrade early 80's:

"Mali Čovek" (my favorite)

Those were interesting to listen to. I think I also preferred your favorite due to the upbeat and simple ska (?) sound of it. What are they singing about? I suppose my only complaint is that the song sounds pretty much exactly like other songs I've heard in that genre. Perhaps the lyrics give it some individuality that I can't appreciate since I can't understand them?

Scissorman 05-06-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 863485)
Wow, Scissorman...those sisters' songs are perfect examples of a genre of music that I really, really, really, really, REALLY don't like, either! What genre *is* it? It sounds jazzy to me. The radio here plays similar sometimes.

Well, they say that it is soul. Both of their albums were produced in the USA, Aleksandra Kovač even won an MTV award. In my opinion their music really, really sucks, which is sad, because I have met them both and they are really nice persons...

dankrsta 05-06-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 863485)
Those were interesting to listen to. I think I also preferred your favorite due to the upbeat and simple ska (?) sound of it. What are they singing about? I suppose my only complaint is that the song sounds pretty much exactly like other songs I've heard in that genre. Perhaps the lyrics give it some individuality that I can't appreciate since I can't understand them?

Mali covek (Little Man) is one of my favorites from Sarlo Akrobata, but if I have to choose from those bands, I kinda lean more toward Elektricni Orgazam and their synth driven melodies. I actually like their second album better, but unfortunately couldn't find anything on You Tube.

As for the lyrics, a somewhat free translation would be:
Little man wants to cross the line,
He wants to, but he can't,
The prescribed norms are suffocating him,
(But) his place is across the line.

And that's it. The lyrics from all those bands, but especially Sarlo Akrobata, are pretty minimal and repetitive.

This Belgrade new wave scene had a fairly uniform sound, but since I listened to it for so long, I can hear a lot of varieties. But I understand how it can all sound very similar to someone who's hearing it for the first time, especially since it's so influenced by western new wave and post-punk.
This scene (and its counterparts in Croatia and Slovenia) had a major influence in shaping the rock'n'roll sound in the 80's and 90's, and it still has a cult place in ex-Yu rock history. A certain compilation "Paket Aranzman" (1980) played a great part in it. It compiled songs from three bands Elektricni Orgazam, Sarlo Akrobata and Idoli

I totally forgot to present something from IDOLI, so I'll do it now. They were probably the most popular band from that scene.

"Maljciki" - a satirical song on communist ideals which were in the early 80's, when Tito died, slowly becoming a thing of the past.


I actually found a translation in English in the comment section on You Tube, so that will spare me some time:
Flaming dawns wake me up from my sleep.
Factory mornings - smoke from chimneys
The song echoes on - young workers!
Steely mornings - I'm rushing to my factory.
My comrades, laborous, happy!
They ride bicycles, full of pride!
My comrades, laborous, happy!
New victories we'll achieve!
Sun is shining - the wind whispers.
The morning dew - smell of the land!
Sun is shining - aaaaaaah!
Rich crops - happy I am!

Petula07 05-07-2010 12:46 AM

I love soundtrack and movie Black cat white cat - I think I can really recommend if somebody doesn't know it :) Crazy, funny, full of energy.

Movie by Emir Kusturica and music by Goran Bregovič.
It's from ex-Jugoslavia, probably from Serbia.


VEGANGELICA 05-07-2010 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scissorman (Post 863508)
Well, they say that it is soul. Both of their albums were produced in the USA, Aleksandra Kovač even won an MTV award. In my opinion their music really, really sucks, which is sad, because I have met them both and they are really nice persons...

Ha ha! I *thought* the word sucks, but didn't have the guts to say it! When I hear those two songs (which sound like love song pap to me), I want to grab a stack of paper, rip it viciously into shreds, and throw it into the air. But that's just ol' chipper, happy me! :) Now I'll have to go visit the soul section to see if this is my universal reaction to all soul songs, or just some. ;)

I think there are probably many musicians whom I'd like as people, even if I dislike their music...and I hope they wouldn't take it personally, just like I hope those two nice sisters would understand and not be offended that you like them but not their music, Scissorman.

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Originally Posted by dankrsta (Post 863598)
Mali covek (Little Man) is one of my favorites from Sarlo Akrobata. As for the lyrics, a somewhat free translation would be:
Little man wants to cross the line,
He wants to, but he can't,
The prescribed norms are suffocating him,
(But) his place is across the line.

Thank you, dankrsta! Simple but meaningful lyrics. I'll listen to the song again with those in mind. And thanks for the info about the Belgrade new wave scene and its influence on songs in the 80's and 90's.

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Originally Posted by dankrsta (Post 863598)
I totally forgot to present something from IDOLI, so I'll do it now. They were probably the most popular band from that scene.

"Maljciki" - a satirical song on communist ideals which were in the early 80's, when Tito died, slowly becoming a thing of the past.

HA HA HA HA HA!!! God, I love satire. Thanks for sharing that song and the lyrics about those "happy" workers, so "full of pride," riding their bikes to their smoky factories. I think I have found my new favorite song and video! ;)

I especially like the part at 2:08 when the man in his nerdy suit starts playing the maracas more and more wildly. I laughed and laughed until I started to cry!

Part of what I like about this song is that I spent some time in East Germany before the Wall came down, and so I got to find out from my friends what life was like there, plus see some of it firsthand. All the propaganda! The limitations on freedoms and enterprise! The rules! And of course, all the soldiers with guns, and the barbed-wire fences and no-man's land to keep you from escaping.

It is sad what people who want to maintain power and control will do to other people paternalistically. I like when songs like this use satirical humor to jab at the ruling order. Satire is the greatest political weapon, I think (well, after machine guns, that is)!

Zaqarbal 05-15-2010 09:34 AM

I like Siddharta. And I've found some lyrics translations here, although Domine isn't there.


VEGANGELICA 05-15-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 867430)
I like Siddharta. And I've found some lyrics translations here, although Domine isn't there.

Kinky video! I can guess at the lyrics from the S&M content. I like the sound of the song (the guitars especially). I don't think I've ever seen a musical video before featuring female sprinters/models!

Zaqarbal 05-15-2010 03:08 PM

I like their video of Ring too. The digital effects are fabulous:





VEGANGELICA 05-15-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal (Post 867529)
I like their video of Ring too. The digital effects are fabulous:

Yes, excellent digital effects, Zaqarbal! I read through the Siddharta lyrics that you posted earlier, and I can see their lyrics are usually descriptions of problematic relationships. They use many metaphors, though, which I like. Their lyrics all seem to deal with unhappy feelings of disappointment and hurt, which comes out in the sound of their songs, I'd say.

I found a translation of "Ring" that makes me wish I knew exactly what it means in Slovenian (?). I can see the basic idea in the video: she is someone who builds him up and then destroys him. This isn't talked about specifically in the song itself, based on the translation I read. I like how the video provides a physical example to illustrate the lyrics. The video brings out the painful and chilling feeling of the song, I feel.

I'm enjoying their music! I like the feeling of anger and misery in it. :)

Zaqarbal 05-15-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 867527)
Kinky video!

Yes, but it doesn't seem to be a man's fantasy. :D As I've read in another YouTube's video, director is a woman: Dafne Jemersic.

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 867531)
I found a translation of "Ring" that makes me wish I knew exactly what it means in Slovenian (?). I can see the basic idea in the video: she is someone who builds him up and then destroys him. This isn't talked about specifically in the song itself, based on the translation I read. I like how the video provides a physical example to illustrate the lyrics. The video brings out the painful and chilling feeling of the song, I feel.

They've made an English version. It is called My Dice.


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