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TheBig3 02-15-2012 08:49 AM

Jakob Dylan
 
I think when someone is the child of a popular musician I immediately write them off. Jakob Dylan obviously being a major grab for any lazy ass recruiter scares me. I loved the Wallflowers output but his solo stuff...too close to Dad for me.

But thanks to the Innovation of Spotify, I managed to trip over some of this work, and what I'm hearing, in my opinion, is really good. Feel free to tell us what you think of him in general.

By the way, i ****ing hated "nothing but the whole wide world".

Favorites so far: Will it Grow, Everybody's Hurtin.

Howard the Duck 02-16-2012 02:36 AM

i liked one or two Wallflowers songs

but not into him

more into Sean Ono Lennon, if you're talking famous offsprings

MoonlitSunshine 02-16-2012 03:33 AM

He's got a better voice than his dad, that's for sure!

It's nice. Not particularly innovative, not particularly new or fresh, but not all music needs to be new, especially that style of semi-country that is so much about roots, home, and familiarity. I like the warmth of what I've listened to, and it's good mellow music for lazy days and car journeys.

EDIT: he sounds like a whiny dick in spanish. He should stick to English :P

Euronomus 02-16-2012 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1155307)
more into Sean Ono Lennon, if you're talking famous offsprings

Pretty much this, I'd put Jeff Buckley in before him, but assuming we're talking people currently making music-Sean's the best out there.

Howard the Duck 02-16-2012 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Euronomus (Post 1155345)
Pretty much this, I'd put Jeff Buckley in before him, but assuming we're talking people currently making music-Sean's the best out there.

Jeff tries too hard to be his father, but he can't quite do the same vocal gymnastics

at least Sean is doing something different than his father's

TheBig3 02-16-2012 09:04 AM

This thread is now about pancakes. Does boysenberry sound too close to Poisonberry for comfort? Discuss.

Lisnaholic 02-16-2012 09:10 AM

Sorry, one more :offtopic: post as I don`t know much about Jakob D.
I share the same intitial distrust of famous offspring, though I am half won over by Rufus Wainwright. OK, he can sound a bit slow and whiney, and he
can choose some strange songs to cover, but he has established a
musical identity quite apart from his mom and dad and sometimes gets it right, e.g. Going To A Town.

MoonlitSunshine 02-16-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1155442)
This thread is now about pancakes. Does boysenberry sound too close to Poisonberry for comfort? Discuss.

Hey, I tried :P

blastingas10 02-16-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 1155316)
He's got a better voice than his dad, that's for sure!

It's nice. Not particularly innovative, not particularly new or fresh, but not all music needs to be new, especially that style of semi-country that is so much about roots, home, and familiarity. I like the warmth of what I've listened to, and it's good mellow music for lazy days and car journeys.

EDIT: he sounds like a whiny dick in spanish. He should stick to English :P

No way. His dad is by far the better vocalists.

I really like the Wallflower song "Josephine". And "Three Marlenas".

But he's still far off from being as good as his dad, but it's a big order to fill.

TheBig3 02-16-2012 02:43 PM

Who says he gives a **** about being Bob Dylan?

blastingas10 02-16-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1155547)
Who says he gives a **** about being Bob Dylan?

Nobody. He doesn't have to be him to be as good as him, which he isn't.

MoonlitSunshine 02-16-2012 03:39 PM

That's a question of taste ;) Bob Dylan was certainly influential, and a great changer in music, but I'm not a huge fan of his stuff. I find his voice a bit whiny at times. They are rather different styles, and for that simple fact I would never try and compare the two. It'd be like saying whether Bon Jovi were better than Daft Punk...

blastingas10 02-16-2012 03:56 PM

Their Styles aren't that different. His dad was the godfather of the style that he uses.

Salami 02-16-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 1155564)
That's a question of taste ;) Bob Dylan was certainly influential, and a great changer in music, but I'm not a huge fan of his stuff. I find his voice a bit whiny at times. They are rather different styles, and for that simple fact I would never try and compare the two. It'd be like saying whether Bon Jovi were better than Daft Punk...

I'm going to post my favourite Jakob Dylan Song here:



They both have unique voices, and I personally appreciate both these fantastic singers individually.

As for Bob's voice, I personally love it! With songs such as "When the Deal Goes Down", the coarse gruffness sounds worldly wise and in a fascinating way, really beautiful to me.

blastingas10 02-16-2012 04:40 PM

What about "one more cup of coffee"? He does some great singing in that song. Bob is one of my favorite vocalists ever. His voice was like a chameleon. I don't know why he gets so much flak about his voice. He can sing better than a lot of musicians that don't get near as much flak as him. Lou reed for one. And Mr. Reed really learned a lot from Bob. Bob was a master of vocal phrasing and intonation. He had a very poetic way of singing. It was almost like he was reciting poetry instead of singing. He fused the two. Lou Reed really used that same style. The imperfections in his voice make it unique and great. Value is too often placed on clean and "perfect" voices.

BastardofYoung 02-17-2012 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1155307)
i liked one or two Wallflowers songs

but not into him

more into Sean Ono Lennon, if you're talking famous offsprings

Sean Lennon sucks. If his dad was not John Lennon, he would have been forgotten already...

I remember when "Home" was a single for him, and thinking at the time it was cool... now i hear it and say it is pretty dreadful.

I think he got his "talent" from the Ono side.

Howard the Duck 02-17-2012 04:39 AM

ah, but i think higher of Yoko Ono than John

BastardofYoung 02-17-2012 04:54 AM

dear god, tell me you are not serious.

BastardofYoung 02-17-2012 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1155573)
Their Styles aren't that different. His dad was the godfather of the style that he uses.

............

MoonlitSunshine 02-17-2012 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1155573)
Their Styles aren't that different. His dad was the godfather of the style that he uses.

I will allow that there are connections between the music that Bob created and the general genre of what Jakob is singing. I will allow that both of them could at times be put until the general title of "Country-Folk Blues" or something similar. Their "Style" is in my opinion totally different. Bob was rather political, and his music is much more coarse, much harder. Jakob's seems to be very much softer, much closer to Iron & Wine and that lot.

Howard the Duck 02-17-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1155757)
dear god, tell me you are not serious.

just saying she ain't that bad

Lennon solo wasn't exactly earth-shattering - besides Plastic Ono Band

Alfred 02-17-2012 10:00 AM

Jakob's first album is all right, if a bit unexciting. The Wallflowers' "Rebel Sweetheart" is one of my all time favourite albums.

blastingas10 02-17-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 1155760)
I will allow that there are connections between the music that Bob created and the general genre of what Jakob is singing. I will allow that both of them could at times be put until the general title of "Country-Folk Blues" or something similar. Their "Style" is in my opinion totally different. Bob was rather political, and his music is much more coarse, much harder. Jakob's seems to be very much softer, much closer to Iron & Wine and that lot.

I see what you're saying, if you really want to dissect their styles. But generally, they aren't that different. And Bob was only really topically political for his first few years.

And what exactly do you mean about Bob being "coarse"? I mean, I understand, but he was also very soft too. Maybe this is a little more Jakob-esque for you.


Bob Dylan - Oh, Sister - YouTube



Bob Dylan Girl from the North country - YouTube

BastardofYoung 02-17-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1155800)
just saying she ain't that bad

Lennon solo wasn't exactly earth-shattering - besides Plastic Ono Band

maybe so. But even the best Ono song isn't half as good as the worst Lennon song.

blastingas10 02-17-2012 02:25 PM

Never could understand how anyone can see any talent in Yoko.

blastingas10 02-17-2012 02:31 PM

Never could understand how anyone can see any talent in Yoko.

ribbons 02-17-2012 03:57 PM

Haven't heard enough of Jakob's work to form a strong opinion. His music sounds a bit like the softer side of Springsteen to me, and as I don't care much for Springsteen I'm lukewarm (so far) to Jakob. He does seem really grounded for someone with such a legendary parent, though.

As for Ono (!): I like Yoko's white chess set and her book Grapefruit and a few of her songs. But that's about it. :rolleyes:

Howard the Duck 02-17-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1155895)
maybe so. But even the best Ono song isn't half as good as the worst Lennon song.

i'm fairly lukewarm to both Lennon solo and Ono

but some of her stuff on Milk & Honey isn't bad


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