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adidasss 03-04-2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah (Post 451032)
i have a problem with illegal aliens

Why?

savannah 03-04-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by swim (Post 451030)
I agree that people enter countries illegally are wrong. I have no objection with that whatsoever. My issue is that system we use doesn't work because in many cases it's more lucrative and time efficient to enter illegally.


Texas would've immediately became a state if it wasn't for that slavery thing which ironically all the land we got from the Mexican War made a bigger issue of.

I'm pretty sure all confederate states had to ratify something saying they weren't allowed to succeed

texas is the only state in the union with the right to succeed,....its still in the contract,...irronically enough, the seal, under the rotunda, in the cap building in austin still reads 'the republic of texas'


and you're wrong,..texas would not have become part of the union had it not been for the slavery issue,...
first texas was not a huge slave state,....we didnt have all the plantations of the south,....we were not the south,...we were/are texas,.....we didnt need the workers that the south needed to economically sustain,....
we were too busy building a country,.....i might add that texas fought the mexicans for our land,.....america did not fight the mexicans,....

and its not the mexican war,....its the war for texas independence,....

also, when we defeated them,....the mexicans.....they were deamed undefeatable,....its a wonder we even won

savannah 03-04-2008 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 451036)
If mexico fixed their own country they wouldn't be dying to get over here.


amen,...what they need to do is work on over throwing their own government rather than draining ours

simplephysics 03-04-2008 05:22 PM

I'm not opposed to people coming in this country looking for a better life because they trying to escape violence, or extremely crooked politics in their own countires but i think its being abused by people who don't need it.

savannah 03-04-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 451037)
Why?

mainly because i work my ass off to suport myself, and dont feel like it should be mandatory (through my tax dollars) to support them,....

we have enough problems

savannah 03-04-2008 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses (Post 451040)
I'm not opposed to people coming in this country looking for a better life because they trying to escape violence, or extremely crooked politics in their own countires but i think its being abused by people who don't need it.


im not either, if they do it legally,..

you wanna be an american? have at it,....
fill out the paper work,...

simplephysics 03-04-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah (Post 451042)
im not either, if they do it legally,..

you wanna be an american? have at it,....
fill out the paper work,...

yea, but doesn't it take an insane amout of time for all the paperwork to come through? like 10 years or somthing?

swim 03-04-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah (Post 451038)
texas is the only state in the union with the right to succeed,....its still in the contract,...irronically enough, the seal, under the rotunda, in the cap building in austin still reads 'the republic of texas'


and you're wrong,..texas would not have become part of the union had it not been for the slavery issue,...
first texas was not a huge slave state,....we didnt have all the plantations of the south,....we were not the south,...we were/are texas,.....we didnt need the workers that the south needed to economically sustain,....
we were too busy building a country,.....i might add that texas fought the mexicans for our land,.....america did not fight the mexicans,....

and its not the mexican war,....its the war for texas independence,....

also, when we defeated them,....the mexicans.....they were deamed undefeatable,....its a wonder we even won

We used 3 times as many troops and they weren't as well off as they could be from the recent war with Spain.

I think I'll call it what my history teacher with his masters calls it. mmk.

The issue had more to do with congressional votes than if slaves actually lived in Texas.

right-track 03-04-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah (Post 451038)
when we defeated them,....the mexicans.....they were deamed undefeatable,....its a wonder we even won


Quote:

Originally Posted by savannah (Post 451042)
im not either, if they do it legally,..

you wanna be an american? have at it,....
fill out the paper work,...

Or take it by force.

savannah 03-04-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses (Post 451043)
yea, but doesn't it take an insane amout of time for all the paperwork to come through? like 10 years or somthing?

honestly,...i'm not sure on the time limit,....
however just because the system is flawed does not mean the law should be broken,...

change the system,.....dont advocate the illegal act


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