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Exo 08-30-2018 12:56 PM

Sorry this is a late response...

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1992250)
Actually every death ever observed of every living thing ever was the same. No dead organism ever went somewhere else. All starting decomposing. At this point with billions and billions of direct observations it’s very safe to say it’s settled.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1992265)
Have you ever stepped on a roach?

There’s no nahhh about it. I dgaf if people believe disproven **** like human consciousness floats into the ether. It doesn’t. We know that because with neuroscience we know exactly what consciousness is and when you die it decomposes like all other physical organic entities. Every human that dies, every anything that dies, it’s the same every time. Nothing goes anywhere. It’s not 50/50 or we don’t know. We do know. It’s 100% certain. There’s not even a billionth of a chance of an afterlife. If you still have doubts go kill something. Watch it die. There you have it.

If I were to put money on a reality, it would be that we are worm food after we die. That's the most likely outcome. What I have found in my 29 years on this planet though is that none of us have a clue what the f*ck we're talking about. Frownland doesn't. Batlord doesn't. You don't. I certainly don't. We're not that special. I claim ignorance to these type of questions because I'm not so arrogant that I can claim to know the answers to some of the most difficult life questions. If you guys want, which you totally do, you can stand on your horse and claim to know what happens after we die. I have a pretty good feeling the lights go out and that's all. I'm not going to tell somebody else that's the cold hardened truth though because who the f*ck am I and why do I think I've figured it out? I can't even remember my neighbors last names and I've lived next to them for 20 years.

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 1992343)
WW2 wouldn't have happened without imperialism aided by willing soldiers. I wonder if the "Greatest Generation" had any opinions about how their country was carrying on all around the world beforehand or if they just nodded their empty heads like their fathers and children did and continue to do.

I'm not going to claim that the American government, at pretty much any time period, hasn't been a total wad of chodes. I understand we didn't enter WWII riding on a horse with an eagle perched on our huge dicks for glory and freedom. That's naive. All I'm saying is that what the Third Reich was setting out to do, and nearly accomplished, was a gray area of what is or isn't the right response. That sh*t stops. We just so happened to help stop it. As did Canada, England, France, Belgium, etc....

Plus, to be completely honest, a nice war every once in a while is great for population control.

Frownland 08-30-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1992710)
If I were to put money on a reality, it would be that we are worm food after we die. That's the most likely outcome. What I have found in my 29 years on this planet though is that none of us have a clue what the f*ck we're talking about. Frownland doesn't. Batlord doesn't. You don't. I certainly don't. We're not that special. I claim ignorance to these type of questions because I'm not so arrogant that I can claim to know the answers to some of the most difficult life questions. If you guys want, which you totally do, you can stand on your horse and claim to know what happens after we die. I have a pretty good feeling the lights go out and that's all. I'm not going to tell somebody else that's the cold hardened truth though because who the f*ck am I and why do I think I've figured it out? I can't even remember my neighbors last names and I've lived next to them for 20 years.

That's true, but becoming worm food (an observed outcome) is massively more probable than going to heaven (an outcome that has never been observed).

Frownland 08-30-2018 01:07 PM

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Exo 08-30-2018 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1992716)
That's true, but becoming worm food (an observed outcome) is massively more probable than going to heaven (an outcome that has never been observed).

I agree. Science hasn't observed life after death. Modern science is still young though and my philosophical ideals adjust for that. There's a lot we don't get and a lot we get wrong. It sounds like what religious people call "faith" but really it's a lack of confidence that we humans have figured sh*t out permanently on the subject.

Frownland 08-30-2018 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1992720)
I agree. Science hasn't observed life after death. Modern science is still young though and my philosophical ideals adjust for that. There's a lot we don't get and a lot we get wrong. It sounds like what religious people call "faith" but really it's a lack of confidence that we humans have figured sh*t out permanently on the subject.

Ja I agree on that. We've made advancements but we'll probably be looked back on with a forehead slap.

I was mainly calling out your "same probability" comment.

grindy 08-30-2018 02:23 PM

Why even entertain such an absurd notion when absolutely nothing points toward it being real?
Might as well say that elves and wizards are real because what do we know, probably science just isn't advanced enough yet to deal with that.

OccultHawk 08-30-2018 02:56 PM

I was figuring on night following day during this 24 hour cycle based on every other day I’ve ever lived through but after Exo’s admonishment I realize I need to show proper humility. Best not make any assumptions.

Exo 08-30-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1992744)
Why even entertain such an absurd notion when absolutely nothing points toward it being real?
Might as well say that elves and wizards are real because what do we know, probably science just isn't advanced enough yet to deal with that.

Because life is mysterious to me. It may be cut and dry hopelessness to you but it isn't to me. Even though everything is most likely bullsh*t and we're all just waiting to blink out of existence.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1992750)
I was figuring on night following day during this 24 hour cycle based on every other day I’ve ever lived through but after Exo’s admonishment I realize I need to show proper humility. Best not make any assumptions.

I forgot that you died before.

EDIT: Also, looks like we found the super special know it alls of the universe.

OccultHawk 08-30-2018 03:34 PM

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I forgot that you died before.
I never jumped off a cliff either but I’m 100% certain I can’t fly. I guess I really do know it all.

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Because life is mysterious to me. It may be cut and dry hopelessness to you but it isn't to me.
Ladies and gentlemen... the new TROLLHEART!

Exo 08-30-2018 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1992759)
I never jumped off a cliff either but I’m 100% certain I can’t fly. I guess I really do know it all.

Ladies and gentlemen... the new TROLLHEART!

You realize I'm not particularly talking about "heaven" or some sh*t but rather a different stream of consciousness right? Actually, the way I'm describing my ideals, any example can really be given here. The point is you don't know and you can't claim to know because you haven't died yet. It's really an exercise in semantics more than what I believe or not.

Like I said, we're most likely lights out, but until I croak and know that for sure, I'm not going to make my mind up about it.

You guys get really petty sometimes. Out of all the things to argue about...


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