Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2044095)

Every belief system has certain identifiable relationships between the object (or objects) of said worship, guidance, etc. and those that follow the doctrines.

You can't make the argument being had here, for example, about nondenominational Christians because they don't give a **** about the Pope. They care about Jesus in the New Testament and that's about it.

The problem with Catholicism ultimately comes down to the veneration you are supposed to have of the Pope. I'm sure there are plenty of Catholics that would argue otherwise, but if the Pope doesn't really matter then you really aren't a Catholic IMO. Same thing applies to the various denominations of Islam: if Muhammad is the light and the way, then that means you are okay with all the terrible things he has said and done, since his word is also that of God's/Allah's.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2044098)

Can you show me where in the doctrine it details this veneration for the Pope requirement?

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2044098)

Can you show me where in the doctrine it details this veneration for the Pope requirement?

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2044090)

This **** is hilarious.. if catholics were some oppressed minority with their leaders doing the same **** you'd be making excuses for every flaw. The only valid point made in this entire debate is Frown saying that supporting the church prepetuates rape/pedophilia. Lemme know when you guys learn how to make the distinction between the institution and the philosophy.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2044105)

I, probably unsurprisingly, agree with most of this. When I slam Islam (and Muslims themselves) with the same intensity for all the bull**** they get up to I’m met with every excuse in the book. You may not like me but I’m an equal opportunity hater.

Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2044106)

Yeah but you come to conclusions based on visceral emotional reactions and use weak logic to rationalize why you're not being hysterical.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2044109)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

lol

Be for real.

Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2044106)

Yeah but you come to conclusions based on visceral emotional reactions and use weak logic to rationalize why you're not being hysterical.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2044110)

Do you think i do that? If not, who cares.