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Lisnaholic 05-02-2019 05:29 AM

Just another regular newsday in America:-

- President advances plans to remove healthcare from 21 million Americans
- cases of the once-eradicated measles continue to climb. New recommendations: don't go to the cinema, don't go on a cruise ship.
- Attorney General refuses to co-operate with Congress
- Attorney General lies under oath to Congress and also declares that the President has the right to stop an investigation into his conduct if he feels himself to be innocent.

A regular newsday although, without wishing to sound dramatic, that last development, if unchallenged, signals the day that the USA began the slide from democracy to dictatorship, following the models set by Turkey, Hungary, Venezuela. < Sorry, I should really fact-check those countries, but I have to rush off to work. 'byeee

OccultHawk 05-02-2019 05:58 AM

Hell Yes!!!

There’s a new worst teacher evaaaaa!

https://apple.news/ASbU92SViQYGSV2lvqOsJJg

Teacher caught on video kicking 5-year-old could face criminal charges


LOCK HER UP!!!

(I mean the kid of course)!

Anteater 05-02-2019 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2054924)
Just another regular newsday in America:-

- President advances plans to remove healthcare from 21 million Americans
- cases of the once-eradicated measles continue to climb. New recommendations: don't go to the cinema, don't go on a cruise ship.
- Attorney General refuses to co-operate with Congress
- Attorney General lies under oath to Congress and also declares that the President has the right to stop an investigation into his conduct if he feels himself to be innocent.

A regular newsday although, without wishing to sound dramatic, that last development, if unchallenged, signals the day that the USA began the slide from democracy to dictatorship, following the models set by Turkey, Hungary, Venezuela. < Sorry, I should really fact-check those countries, but I have to rush off to work. 'byeee

How did Barr lie under oath when there was a documented 15 minute call the day after the Report was released where Mueller literally admits "nothing in the Attorney General's March 24th letter was inaccurate or misleading."?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/46610...-james-barrett

The Batlord 05-02-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2054925)
Hell Yes!!!

There’s a new worst teacher evaaaaa!

https://apple.news/ASbU92SViQYGSV2lvqOsJJg

Teacher caught on video kicking 5-year-old could face criminal charges


LOCK HER UP!!!

(I mean the kid of course)!

10 points!

rostasi 05-02-2019 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2054930)
How did Barr lie under oath when there was a documented 15 minute call the day after the Report was released where Mueller literally admits "nothing in the Attorney General's March 24th letter was inaccurate or misleading."?

Because the info is dubious because it comes from officials in the Justice Department and sounds a lot like something Barr himself would say happened. The Trump defenders are excising this little bit of skeptical info and running with it.

Anteater 05-02-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2054937)
Because the info is dubious because it comes from officials in the Justice Department and sounds a lot like something Barr himself would say happened. The Trump defenders are excising this little bit of skeptical info and running with it.

The Washington Post are the ones who originally cited the Justice Department officials's comments in regards to the call I mentioned. So I think we can safely say that the call happened. If it didn't happen, then that's something that should be looked into.

Frownland 05-02-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2054951)
So I think we can safely say that the call happened since the WaPo didn't say it didn't.

Big logick.

Anteater 05-02-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2054952)
Big logick.

Nice try FBI.

Lisnaholic 05-02-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2054937)
Because the info is dubious because it comes from officials in the Justice Department and sounds a lot like something Barr himself would say happened. The Trump defenders are excising this little bit of skeptical info and running with it.

^ Yes, Mueller was sufficiently angry to write two letters, to be put on record, explaining that Barr was mis-handling the release of his report. So far, there is little more than Barr's word that Mueller later back-peddled his criticisms in a later convesation.
Also, Barr's denial of knowing that Mueller was unhappy is only one of six false or evasive statements from Barr in yesterday's testimony:-

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/u...factcheck.html

To that list of six, I'd add one more as well:

There is also the question about "Did Trump ask for Mueller to be fired?" Barr went into a weedling distinction about the difference between "firing someone" and "asking someone to be removed." Barr claimed that Trump only wanted the latter - even though in Mueller's report, the word used (something like 5 times) is "fired." It's one thing for the supposedly-impartial AG to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, but it is another thing when the AG invents a doubt that is not textually there, and then gives Trump the benefit of that too.
Bottom Line: Barr is a lying partisan charlatan who has betrayed his office, his integrity and the Justice Department all for the sake of placing Trump above the reach of the law.

Frownland 05-02-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2054958)
There is also the question about "Did Trump ask for Mueller to be fired?" Barr went into a weedling distinction about the difference between "firing someone" and "asking someone to be removed." Barr claimed that Trump only wanted the latter - even though in Mueller's report, the word used (something like 5 times) is "fired." It's one thing for the supposedly-impartial AG to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, but it is another thing when the AG invents a doubt that is not textually there, and then gives Trump the benefit of that too.
Bottom Line: Barr is a lying partisan charlatan who has betrayed his office, his integrity and the Justice Department all for the sake of placing Trump above the reach of the law.

If Trump said "let's bomb France because their bread sucks" and the generals were like "nah", should Trump be charged with a war crime?


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