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OccultHawk 07-22-2019 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2067306)
What goal? They dont have goals.. They just sit here complaining about stuff and how things should be with no consideration for how the world actually works or attempts to make change in the areas their societal positions allow them to affect. It's a dog and pony show... no better than our presidential candidates.

TFW you discover JWB is a street version of DWV.

Lucem Ferre 07-22-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2067304)
It's a simple question of logistics. The fact that you can't answer it is on you.

The question assumes I want communism. I can't answer a question assuming I want something that I don't.

But probably. I imagine a commune would work a lot differently from a communist government because scale and etc., but getting some sort of sample of what it'd be like couldn't hurt. Though, I don't think they can really cause any sort of change from inside a commune. If they want to change anything they have to play the capitalist game.

Lucem Ferre 07-22-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2067314)
why's it got to be about my life decisions and **** damn get off my back Dad

Because that's every conversation on MB.

jwb 07-22-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2067305)
I did d00d

what do you want from me

You didn't.

You just have a doctrinaire and generic statement about global order etc

My question was basically about the pragmatic important of trying it on a small scale to learn more about the problems and challenges that will crop up. As well as whether it might be more likely to start on a smaller scale and expand than to be ushered in as a global system all at once.

Lucem Ferre 07-22-2019 02:17 PM

I don't do **** I just complain. I'm mostly sick of trying.

jwb 07-22-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067309)
If you haven’t read the Communist Manifesto he’s not deflecting. He’s giving you guidance so you can communicate as a peer with people who are educated on the matter. If you haven’t read Marx we can’t discuss Marxism.

I've read it. It was a while ago. Please cut the relevant passages that answer my question rather than directing me to go reread some boring Marxist tract.

jwb 07-22-2019 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067310)
TFW you discover JWB is a street version of DWV.

cause we both believe in goals

How silly of us.

jwb 07-22-2019 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2067322)
you should use sparknotes

you should stop posturing. At this point I'm not even convinced you've read the book you told me to go read.

DwnWthVwls 07-22-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067310)
TFW you discover JWB is a street version of DWV.

That's insulting.. jwb puts effort into his posts, i got bored of your virtue signaling well over a year ago.

Lucem Ferre 07-22-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2067326)
the answer is sorta

and that it's inevitable because of this list of flaws inherent in capitalism that the majority of The Manifesto is about

So... we're supposed to wait and just let things happen or?


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