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jwb 09-21-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2079461)
half of Americans have no savings and couldn't come up with $400 in an emergency

one unfortunate event from poverty

that's ignoring that capitalism only "works" as long as you have other countries to exploit

you can afford an Iphone because the parts are made in someplace with suicide nets

that much is definitely true

We're growing in a completely unplanned and haphazard way as a global populous

The Batlord 09-21-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2079465)
that much is definitely true

We're growing in a completely unplanned and haphazard way as a global populous

I feel like this was supposed to be a good dig.

Frownland 09-21-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079464)
So I don't know how you think I don't think the current system needs refining. I've only said it over and over again in different ways.

Your vehement attempts to downplay to any criticism of the status quo says a lot more than your empty declarations of support.

*chases tail*

If you don't get it, you're not gonna.

jwb 09-21-2019 05:28 PM

@bat

Based on what?

Frownland 09-21-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079464)
You must have missed what I said before about automation and reducing scarcity. The "exploitation" aspect of capitalism is going to reach a nice fat 0% as those things take their course. The sheer inevitability of it scares the living hell out of a significant chunk of the .01% because their business models will disintegrate.

Just like the cotton gin!

Anteater 09-21-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2079468)
Your vehement attempts to downplay to any criticism of the status quo says a lot more than your empty declarations of support.

*chases tail*

If you don't get it, you're not gonna.

You guys make the same criticisms over and over again and then when I bring up what's going on with lab tech and growing food you scoff like there's no value to it.

OccultHawk 09-21-2019 05:34 PM

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nowhere near the 42% you kept bringing up.
I’ve been steady saying that in the long run $15 or less per hour will not keep a person in America well fed, comfortably sheltered, clothed, and able afford a car and health care.

Here’s three sources that support my claim that 42% of American workers fall into this category:

https://www.nelp.org/wp-content/uplo...15-Dollars.pdf

https://fortune.com/2015/04/13/who-makes-15-per-hour/

http://civilrightsdocs.info/pdf/repo...re-Minimum.pdf

Anteater 09-21-2019 05:43 PM

I agree that the minimum wage (based on what was cited by the BLS) should be raised significantly because it would reduce that 2.3 - 5% close to zero and would also reduce the big chunk of people lost somewhere in that No Man's Land trying to find better entry level positions into the workforce. There are a lot of other benefits too, but those are two major ones right out of the gate.

Inflation has a lot of weird details too, but that's a different type of discussion.

Frownland 09-21-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079472)
You guys make the same criticisms over and over again and then when I bring up what's going on with lab tech and growing food you scoff like there's no value to it.

I just don't have that kind of faith. Technology has been touted as the eliminator of jobs and ticket out of oppression for millennia, but time and time again, society simply adapts to the climate. I also don't trust that this technology will do anything to eliminate the wealth gap. ****, I don't even think it's going to impact the price of food.

The Batlord 09-21-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2079469)
@bat

Based on what?

It just seemed like a sly dig that was supposed to be cutting.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2079476)
I agree that the minimum wage (based on what was cited by the BLS) should be raised significantly because it would reduce that 2.3 - 5% close to zero and would also reduce the big chunk of people lost somewhere in that No Man's Land trying to find better entry level positions into the workforce. There are a lot of other benefits too, but those are two major ones right out of the gate.

Using a lot of words to say nothing.

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Inflation has a lot of weird details too, but that's a different type of discussion.
Still somehow disavowing all of that nothing.


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