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jwb 12-26-2019 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2097179)
Because it's a false dichotomy intended to lead me to the same conclusion as you so that when I go back on it you can accuse me of being a big phony. I implore you to consider my actual point:

if it's a false dichotomy which option am I leaving out?

The Batlord 12-26-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2097170)
Huh?

Lemme try again. The problem with porn is not what videos are available but that its being used as a replacement for sex with another person which is bad for human sexual health. Why do you insist on adding all the extra arbitrary bull**** to an otherwise reasonable argument?

Yeah see that I can totally agree with. It's j-dubs harping on about this or that fetish being creepy that makes it seem like he's personalizing the issue so that it's "I'm imagining the kind of people who watch this stuff and having an anecdotal reaction to it and then extrapolating that reaction to society as a whole" rather than being objective like "I think the way we consume porn is psychologically unhealthy for society and perhaps this or that fetish proliferating is a byproduct of that".

Frownland 12-26-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097181)
if it's a false dichotomy which option am I leaving out?

You were asking what I was arguing and you left out what I was actually arguing despite my explicitly telling you what my argument was.

The Batlord 12-26-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097181)
if it's a false dichotomy which option am I leaving out?

Maybe it's not the healthiest thing but maybe it's also not the end of the world so meh do what you want.

jwb 12-26-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2097183)
You were asking what I was arguing and you left out what I was actually arguing despite my explicitly telling you what my argument was. Do you have some kind of amnesia where you forget the posts you made less than 5 minutes ago?

You used Christian arguments about sex to compare to my argument in order to discredit it.

Those arguments were essentially the slippery slope argument. If you let x happen then y z will follow.

I'm admitting it's that type of argument. I just pointed out that in the case of the Christians and their sexual morality disintegrating over time, that slippery slope came true.

jwb 12-26-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2097184)
Maybe it's not the healthiest thing but maybe it's also not the end of the world so meh do what you want.

I basically said maybe I was being hyperbolic initially but I feel it's having a negative affect.

Frownland 12-26-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097185)
You used Christian arguments about sex to compare to my argument in order to discredit it.

Very true, I used your arguments to discredit your arguments.

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Those arguments were essentially the slippery slope argument. If you let x happen then y z will follow.

I'm admitting it's that type of argument. I just pointed out that in the case of the Christians and their sexual morality disintegrating over time, that slippery slope came true.
Correlation equals causation, can't argue with science. Might as well prepare for the incest wave so that you're ready for it when it hits.

The Batlord 12-26-2019 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2097186)
I basically said maybe I was being hyperbolic initially but I feel it's having a negative affect.

I don't think you can go from "it's evil" to "I'm ambivalent" unless you don't actually care and are just pretending to have strong opinions on the internet.

DwnWthVwls 12-26-2019 01:13 PM

So can i go back to watching sloppy face**** videos without you judging me?

jwb 12-26-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2097182)
Yeah see that I can totally agree with. It's j-dubs harping on about this or that fetish being creepy that makes it seem like he's personalizing the issue so that it's "I'm imagining the kind of people who watch this stuff and having an anecdotal reaction to it and then extrapolating that reaction to society as a whole" rather than being objective like "I think the way we consume porn is psychologically unhealthy for society and perhaps this or that fetish proliferating is a byproduct of that".

i personalize it to make it real. It's easy to get lost in abstraction but sexuality and sexual norms are more instinctual.

That's why I went through the process of having vwls confess that he indeed would have no problem with his brother banging his mom, which if I may say so probably the crowning achievement of this entire argument.


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