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OccultHawk 04-23-2020 06:39 PM

tbh I didn’t totally discount the guy at the Florida somewhere city council who said use a hairdryer to heat up your nose

Totally unscientific but so is pretty much everything else so far

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2114231)
Vietnam hasn’t had a single death.

They closed school in Jan.

They have a one party Leninist communist government.



LA Times


I’ve been there. You can read whatever you want. You can listen to jazz records all day if you want.

“But it’s not a democracy - we’re free - we can vote”

Aren't they actually socialist? Like, they're Marxist so they believe they need to become socialist before becoming communist so just like China they plan on being communist but aren't really communist yet?

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2114276)
I think I've just accepted that communism has one use that just means some kind of command economy with at least an appearance of social welfare

and then the actual Marxist definition that's just for bookish leftist to jerk off with, as it exists nowhere, but is actually correct

China's party doesn't believe it's communist, it believes (in theory) that China is the state that's meant to usher in communism

Yeah, they know what they are but every other idiot doesn't so when they call themselves communist every atrocity the enact gets pinned on communism.

It's cherry picking propaganda nonsense. Every problem you've gotten from "communist" governments is the same problems you get with any authoritarian dictatorship. So common sense should tell you that it's not the economic platform that causes the problems but the authoritarianism. People tend to lack common sense, though.

OccultHawk 04-24-2020 05:15 AM

Idk tbh

Just from my observations that were a long time ago and don’t mean **** anyway because I was just a tourist but it didn’t appear to have the crushing poverty of places like India or the United States. As far as how much what happens in practice aligns with their official policy - probably not that much really. China felt a lot more aggressive and regimented to me. And from what I saw in China very brutal poverty was quite prevalent.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2114282)
Idk tbh

Just from my observations that were a long time ago and don’t mean **** anyway because I was just a tourist but it didn’t appear to have the crushing poverty of places like India or the United States. As far as how much what happens in practice aligns with their official policy - probably not that much really. China felt a lot more aggressive and regimented to me. And from what I saw in China very brutal poverty was quite prevalent.

From what I read their economy has been going through rapid growth but they still lack a lot of resources. Despite that they have been lifting more and more people out of poverty in their country. So as a whole the country isn't as rich as most first world countries but their people aren't facing the same kind of poverty as most first world countries.

OccultHawk 04-24-2020 11:45 AM

Man. When I google pictures of what it looks like now compared to when I was there it’s insane.

This may seem pretty modest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ydbk-Y8gaa0/hqdefault.jpg

But there was no modern architecture when I was there.

I am so old.

The Batlord 04-24-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2114317)
I am so old.

https://inblackwaterwords.files.word...nstein-duh.jpg

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 11:53 AM

I'm waiting for there to be some kind of catch as to why Vietnam is evil or something.

The Batlord 04-24-2020 11:56 AM

I mean they're a small enough country that it's possible they manage to... install(?) leaders who aren't ****bags.

Lucem Ferre 04-24-2020 11:58 AM

From what I read it seems fairly fascist there. Like, neighbors are snitches. They have a culture of snitching.


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