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That she has no right ever being vp. Or in political office for that matter.

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Originally Posted by WendyCal (Post 517598)

Enter Sarah, with years and years of hands-on experience in the government, on a platform of Goverrnmental corruption reform (which, btw, she DID manage to clean up in Alaska!), and, well, it's no contest.

SARAH and what's-his-name--the-old-geezer in 2008!!!

Your kidding right? She barely has 12 years, 6 of which are not even a very prominent political spot. She was a sports reporter for goodness sakes.

And its not like Joe Biden (the man covered in scandal, or so you say) was a US Senator who helped work on resolutions for multiple wars, help establish the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, and become chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Your right she would be much better, at least we would know the results from Sundays game..

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Say something happened to McCain, which could very much so be a possibility...She would be running this country. Yea, I'm sure you would be very glad you voted for that.

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Originally Posted by WendyCal (Post 517607)

Wow. Okay, well, first:

snopes.com: Books Banned by Sarah Palin

Before we go any further, would y'all like to check out Snopes and the like about McCain, Palin, Obama and Biden? The thing is, for the most part, that's where i'll be going to see what's true and what isn't, because a LOT of what we hear on TV and read in the newspapers is rather horribly skewed...

She did try to ban books, just not that list specifcally. She also managed to get the librarian fired. The librarian was later reinstated. ****, even Palin admits to this. The following news report mentions two specific books Go Ask Alice and Pastor I Am ***.

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Originally Posted by WendyCal (Post 517614)

You know, when it all started, i really thought Obama would be the one, but after reading a bunch of articles like the following, i had to stop, regroup and really think long and hard about it all.

Anyway, that (and a bunch of other things i've read) are the reason i'm going with McCain.

Are you seriously so mentally deficient that you read that and didn't realize they were batting zero? Their point on the health care system is off base, Norway and Finland both have better health care and they both subscribe to the universal health care system. They lied twice in the same sentence.

About the economy, yeah, no ****? Of course you raise taxes for government ran programs. It isn't like money appears out of thin air. The question isn't if he's raising taxes, but who's taxes he plans on raising and if the programs are worth the taxation.

The social issues bit is also hilarious. Even if Margaret Sanger did hold those views it doesn't mean Obama's views are derived from that. It also isn't like racial cleansing and abortion are related issues. Most people are full of **** some of the time. Likewise most people are right on occassion. The comparison is pretty stupid. It would be a kin to saying "Barack Obama likes peanut butter and so did Hitler!"

...and apparently Palin believes that Iraq has ties to Al Quida! Even Bush gave that one up long ago!

Did anyone happen to catch the charlie rose interview where he asked her if we're in a holy war?

"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan." - Sarah Palin on the Iraq War

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Originally Posted by WendyCal (Post 517685)

You do understand that raising taxes for Big Businesses raises ALL of our PRICES, right? If Big Biz has to pay more taxes, where do you think those monies are going to come from? From us, the customers, that's who. Prices will continue to rise and Big Biz will be laughing their asses off, all the way to the bank. Meanwhile, we'll be sitting here, wishing WE could onto some of the Programs, because now we have even less than we did before. Sad, but true.

Trickle up doesn't typically favor business. Remember what happened when the price of cigarettes went up?

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Originally Posted by WendyCal (Post 517703)

i'm just trying to pass on what my research has shown me. If you can look at facts and then just discount them because you don't agree with them, fine. It's just that history DOES repeat itself, if we don't make the necessary changes.

What facts? You're the one who claims trickle up puts more money in the pocket of businesses. As gas prices raise we see more people bike and take the bus because 5 dollars is just too much for gas. The end result is oil companies losing money. At some point taxing the business does a whole lot more than inflate prices.

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Originally Posted by WendyCal (Post 517740)

i didn't exactly say (nor allude to) Big Biz making more profits from a tax increase. i just said (and i think it's one of those logical things that can't be refuted), they are not going to just sit back and LOSE money.

This is true but...

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This country has already been through an Energy Crunch during the '80's, and guess what? The big oil companies came out smelling like freshly printed MONEY, went right back to business as usual, and Voila! Here we are, again, wondering who is going to walk away the loser this time?

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with OPEC reporting profits at an all time high during that oil scare it seems like it could very well have been implied.

To tackle this question, no I'm not wondering.