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sleepy jack 12-04-2008 05:33 PM

Somewhere in between, I guess you could call it free market by convenience. You can't be a free market economy and that always backing businesses (banks) up and talking about backing businesses (automakers) up.

dac 12-04-2008 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 557882)
Somewhere in between, I guess you could call it free market by convenience. You can't be a free market economy and that always backing businesses (banks) up and talking about backing businesses (automakers) up.

Yeah, I guess you're right. We were founded on free market principals though, and I support it. So that's what I primarily base most of my economic solutions off of.

sleepy jack 12-05-2008 12:51 AM

I have to admit, it saddens me Congress bailed out the financial industry so stupidly and they're just now deciding to be hardasses about our money.

Inuzuka Skysword 12-06-2008 05:11 PM

We definately shouldn't bail these guys out. The government has no right to tax, period. So any more stealing to help out the fellow man is still wrong.

dac 12-06-2008 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 559065)
We definately shouldn't bail these guys out. The government has no right to tax, period. So any more stealing to help out the fellow man is still wrong.

Communist!!!

;)

sleepy jack 12-06-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 559065)
We definately shouldn't bail these guys out. The government has no right to tax, period. So any more stealing to help out the fellow man is still wrong.

The Sixteenth Amendment disagrees.

ProggyMan 12-06-2008 05:20 PM

Well, he's got a point about taxes...Everyone born here is forced into a social contract and the majority has no viable way out.

sleepy jack 12-06-2008 05:22 PM

No he's wrong. The government legally does have the right to tax.

Inuzuka Skysword 12-06-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 559075)
The Sixteenth Amendment disagrees.

I was referring to actual "rights" not what our government deems legal. Coercion violates another's right to his own life. Rights can not be a right if they necessitate the violation of another's right to his life. Therefore taxes, which are coercive, cannot be a right.

sleepy jack 12-06-2008 05:43 PM

Without taxes Without what keeps the government and everything it funds going?


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