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Old 04-08-2009, 02:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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there's always a stimulus...

also, i titled the thread to sound interesting, not to embody the spirit of accuracy.
Thats what I thought too, unless youre in a completely empty dark room floating?
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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you could put someone in a sensory deprivation tank and they'd probably start hallucinating and you can call it a hallucination because it doesn't respond to an 'external stimulus,' but how do you know those external stimuli weren't hallucinations in the first place? there's really no difference. the stimulus comes from within rather than without, the only difference between kinds of experience are the way they integrate with other experiences. integrating experiences is nothing other than 'interpreting' them, and we can call a false interpretation an illusion, but in that case 'illusion' just refers to a difficulty integrating, whereas in this case it is rather an ease of integrating an experience of random sounds into the perception of a word. if the ability to transmute chaos into static concepts is useful and helpful (i hint that it is essential) then it is not an 'illusion,' but rather reality. as such i prefer to use the word 'hallucinations,' because it implies that while organizing chaos into order is not illusion, but the essence of reality, we can still call reality a hallucination and preserve the idea that the stimulus, while not absent, is not what it represents itself as.

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Old 04-08-2009, 02:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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there's always a stimulus...

also, i titled the thread to sound interesting, not to embody the spirit of accuracy.
i'm not trying to delve into semantics.

but there's a huge difference between an illusion and a hallucination; it's the line that separates psychosis from normal perception. "the spirit of accuracy" has nothing to do with it.
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Old 04-08-2009, 02:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I just hear "no way no way no way" though sometimes it sounds more like "no way-o no way-o no way-o".
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i'm not trying to delve into semantics.

but there's a huge difference between an illusion and a hallucination; it's the line that separates psychosis from normal perception. "the spirit of accuracy" has nothing to do with it.
it's the line i refuse to recognize
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Lots of "no way" an "no", but i also heard "bang," "wink," "weak," and "help me." Creepy.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Windmill, nowhere, rainbow, Rambo.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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"nowhere"
"no way"
"window"
"rainbow"
"movement" a couple times
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I listened to it twice and I got:

No way, no where, ran away, ran a, Randall, and Wampa

I know the last one may sound a little far fetched, but I swear that's what I heard.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Nobody, windmill, rain now, rainbow, bueno, right now, no way, broadway, snowflake.. I listened twice.. Kinda started to freak me out...
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