Thrice

The funny thing about that is in bootcamp in the Navy at least you shower together with 80 plus men. I dont see how one could feel much more uncomfortable than that.

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adidasss

That simply wasn't the case as Bane rightfully noted. You can google it yourself.

There's no need, we have an actual man serving in Iraq right now saying he gets along with his gay comrades just fine and that it doesn't affect the cohesion of their unit(s). It's highly probable your buddies' reasoning won't amount to much more than homophobia.

Had your government pandered to the prejudices of its servicemen, you would still have segregation in the military. The fact is that sexual orientation plays no part in your ability to serve your country. What's problematic here is your blasé attitude towards the blatant and shameful discrimination of your fellow citizens.

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djchameleon

what bootcamp were you in? There wasn't enough room in the shower for 80 plus men. more like ten at max.

I had one flamboyant gay roommate while in the Navy but you know how the stereotype goes that the guys in the Navy are gay, well I tended to find more gays in the Marines and Army


Oh come on, everyone needs to get off Obama's nuts....yeah he promised to do things but that stuff isn't going to happen over night....he has more pressing issues to attend to first

Thrice

Ship 14, Great Lakes. I think we actually split it in half and did 40 plus at a time, Port and Stbd. We had a double shower and a separate single one. The double could fit about 10-12 at a time, but the other 30 guys stood around the inner walls of the shower waiting their turn. We were only authorized to use the single on Sunday (Holiday Routine) and we could shower alone. Alot of the guys hid in the head stalls to avoid showering with everyone and would only shower on sunday.

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IamAlejo

Segregation in the armed forces lasted through WWII. It was segregated for quite some time. But believe whatever you want. Everything involving desegregation in this country has been slow, what tends you to believe this should happen so fast? I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying it might be the best for all parties involved to occur with minimal incidents.

And the fact is that sexual orientation does play a part in the ability of others to serve their country, coming straight from the mouth of some people that serve it. And no offense, but I'm sure cohesion in the Seals is a bit more needed than someone enlisted.

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Thrice

I hope you dont speak of the entire enlisted field. Even though, I still dont see how someones sexuality effects the workplace whatsoever. Its two thousand fucking nine.

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Cheese

Considers himself lucky he lives in a country that isn't closeminded and bigotted to f uck.

Bane of your existence

Oh, are you sure?
Speak on what you know, man, not what you feel like is.

IamAlejo

I'm using what I've been told, seeing as though I've got quite friends that are both enlisted and special ops. I've grown up around the military since I was born. I live on the biggest naval station in the world. I'd say I'm more than able to speak on what I know, but I appreciate the advice.

It's not meant as a diss to anyone in the services as I'm not sure there's a more honorable duty to partake in.

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Bane of your existence

SEAL's and special ops are enlisted, so I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.