Inuzuka Skysword |
08-07-2009 06:41 AM |
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
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That certainly explains why he's the only sitting congressman to have actually voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That also explains why he's opposed to the war in Iraq not because it's been upheld for imperialist control, and not even because it's morally "wrong", but because it was launched without a declaration of war, because it's dreadfully expensive, and because Iraq has never initiated aggression against the US. Are we meant to assume, then, that the war would be justified had there been a declaration of war, that the war would be justified if it were affordable, and that it would be justified had Iraq initiated aggression against the United States ensuing years and years of sanctions, colonial occupation and millions upon millions of deaths?
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You act as though "millions of deaths" is what one should be afraid of. If people sign up for the military, they are choosing to fight. There goes a piece of those "millions of deaths." Next we have the government that initiated force on us. Are you telling me that it would be smart to let them use force on us as if it was nothing? Where the hell is the logic in that? The only smart thing to do is use force back. When I mean use force, I don't mean that we should be playing "find the bad guys." I mean that those who seem to support that government should go down with it. America is too nice when it comes to war and that is where the casualties come from on our side. We should be shooting those who are an enemy in war, and that includes the civilians who pose a threat. The reason wars take to long is we try to be as careful as we can, thereby avoiding the fact that war is war and the enemy needs to be completely destroyed.
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Lastly, I guess this also explains why he is an inflexible proponent of the kinds of economic policies that lead with almost unshakable certainty to the end of the minimum wage, the end of guaranteed sanitary conditions in the workplace, the end of the suppression of child labour and the end of any kind of health benefits.
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The end of minimum wage is good. The end of government guaranteed sanitary conditions in the workplace is good. The end of the suppression of child labor is great. The end of government hand-outs based upon health needs is excellent. I see no problem here.
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Having a raison d'etre does not make you a moral being. This definition is beyond atrocious because it makes that assumption. One can have no drive and still be a moral person.
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Please, do explain how one can have a morality without a goal. Just one example and I will be happy. Also, expect me to find the goal that you will probably fail to mention.
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This is why I hate Rand's philosophy. It tosses out philosophy based on reality and logic in favor of selfish gain. In my mind what I gain from reality is far more important and precious than anything I could get out of denying it for selfish goals. The ideology doesn't care about what actually is as long is it makes you feel good.
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I think that you basically just said, "What I want from reality is good, but it is also stupid because it isn't as great as what I want from reality."
What actually is? What is the one thing that will induce pleasure and pain in your life? Yourself.
Rand's philosophy is the ideal for living and enjoying this reality. That is because it allows man to like living, unlike the popular philosophies of this time. It is also based in logic in that she views that man's mind is the key to unlocking reality. As she says, "A=A." This represents that man can know what is beyond him in this objective reality. You are the one who claims that man cannot know parts of reality and that is infringing on this base point of logic. You say that an objective morality is not able to be found. That is saying that logic does not work in the case of morality. That is highly illogical because you deny logic's value in that sentence.
Secondly, you have no reason to believe that your selfish goals are wrong. Give me a good reason why one should believe such a thing.
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