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Freebase Dali 01-15-2010 04:48 PM

I hate Nixon the worst. And not because of Watergate.

duga 01-15-2010 04:50 PM

^
glad to hear it...that is such a cliche reason to hate nixon. there are plenty of other reasons to hate him.

Rickenbacker 01-15-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 811115)
Grace Kelly - Take a guess.

ewwww


Actually that brings to mind an interesting question regarding the afterlife. If we are to assume that it exists, must we assume that its inhabitants are perpetually in the mental and physical state they were in as death came upon them? That would be annoying to say the least. And it means Grace Kelly would have been... really old.

Freebase Dali 01-15-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker (Post 811127)
ewwww


Actually that brings to mind an interesting question regarding the afterlife. If we are to assume that it exists, must we assume that its inhabitants are perpetually in the mental and physical state they were in as death came upon them? That would be annoying to say the least. And it means Grace Kelly would have been... really old.

I don't see how they could be in any physical state at all.

loveissucide 01-15-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 811132)
I don't see how they could be in any physical state at all.

That's one aspect of the Christian/Jewish/Islamic idea of the afterlife that puzzles me somewhat.Would I get Vegas Elvis,Lincoln with a horrible head wound or a very old Martin Luther, as opposed to the essence of the man as he spiritually was, not how he physically appeared?

Freebase Dali 01-15-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by loveissucide (Post 811143)
That's one aspect of the Christian/Jewish/Islamic idea of the afterlife that puzzles me somewhat.Would I get Vegas Elvis,Lincoln with a horrible head wound or a very old Martin Luther, as opposed to the essence of the man as he spiritually was, not how he physically appeared?

I think that the idea of having an actual body in the 'afterlife' is just a common way of visualizing it, and is easier to understand and accept.

That reminds me...
For the folks in here that believe in a soul/spirit...
What's it made of?

*scratches head*

loveissucide 01-15-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 811147)
I think that the idea of having an actual body in the 'afterlife' is just a common way of visualizing it, and is easier to understand and accept.

That reminds me...
For the folks in here that believe in a soul/spirit...
What's it made of?

*scratches head*

The soul?It's a metaphysical entity.Dosn't have to be "made" of anything.

Engine 01-15-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 810714)
Throw in John Adams, Andrew Jackson (despite being the coolest pres ever), Woodrow Wilson, and maybe Grant and we've got oursleves a party.

Jackson was a ruthless, land-grabbing, bullying dickhead. But I guess you kind of have to be those things to be a US President (although land-grabbing has been out of style for a while now).
I can't believe anybody is choosing any US Pres. as a dead person they want to meet if they can meet 3 dead people. I do think US Presidents are interesting and, in fact, focused my undergrad work on one of them (Jefferson) but, christ, all of them are relatively boring and horrible if we're talking about all of human history.

Freebase Dali 01-15-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by loveissucide (Post 811150)
The soul?It's a metaphysical entity.Dosn't have to be "made" of anything.

So why do we have one hiding, and trapped, in our body, and how does it get out when our bodies die?
How come physical tissue can trap it there?
And how does it know how to jump between dimensions? Does it use Stargate?

loveissucide 01-15-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 811155)
So why do we have one hiding, and trapped, in our body, and how does it get out when our bodies die?
How come physical tissue can trap it there?
And how does it know how to jump between dimensions? Does it use Stargate?

Well, I'd consider the body to be the matter, and the soul to be the form, or the essence of something by virtue of being what ultimately defines one individual from another.


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