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Freebase Dali 01-29-2010 04:52 PM

College needs to teach abstinence.
I will volunteer, by showing college girls what not to do.

TheBig3 01-29-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 818301)
I think it's worth pointing out that the kind of kids who most need teaching about what could happen if you have sex don't give a flying fuck what teachers or their parents say anyway.

Yeah what we're trying to do is to have them flying dry hump.

Freebase Dali 01-29-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 818498)
Yeah what we're trying to do is to have them flying dry hump.

Haha...
That reminds me of a Mormon chick I tried to fuck.

TheBig3 01-29-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 818501)
Haha...
That reminds me of a Mormon chick I tried to fuck.

the nice thing about mormon chicks is that one of them is likely to be willing to explore. Its why they can afford to be prudes...you date them in packs.

duga 01-29-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 818506)
the nice thing about mormon chicks is that one of them is likely to be willing to explore. Its why they can afford to be prudes...you date them in packs.

haha

i feel guilty for laughing at that.

but it is funny because it is true...

FETCHER. 01-29-2010 08:48 PM

:laughing: You date them in packs :laughing: NSW, you champ :D!

jayfin3 02-09-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 817678)
ALL her options. they should also not teach that sex is evil. that is so ****ing middle ages. christianity views sex as evil therefore by extension our schools view sex as evil. i'm kind of sick of that...sex is awesome and not evil at all.

lol...actually people in the middle ages did not view sex as evil...quite the opposite ;)

ElephantSack 02-09-2010 05:04 PM

"Should abstinence be taught in school?" I'm not quite sure how to answer that.

Yes, during sexual education, abstinence should be discussed as an option. But without any religious or moral connotation. It's not right to make a young person feel shame and guilt for wanting to act on natural impulses. Sure, the church will tell you that you shouldn't have sex before you get married, but some priests will also tell you that it's okay for you to suck their cock when you're only 12. Let's keep that out of schools, shall we?

But if you're asking if sexual education should be "abstinence only", then fuck no. People like George Bush and Sarah Palin will tout the virtues of abstinence-only sex education. Probably because their children are such fucking mutants. I remember shortly after Palin's retarded-ass daughter dumped her baby out, they were parading her on magazines and talk shows like she was anything more than a reformed slam-pig. One quote in particular stuck with me: "If people realized the consequences of having sex, then nobody would be doing it... Trust me." Now isn't that one of the most retarded fucking things you've ever heard in your life?

Abstinence-only sex education is an oxymoron.

EDIT: I didn't see the "(At all)" at the end of the title. My answer is yes, so long as it's objective.

bandteacher1 02-11-2010 05:13 PM

As I parent, I much prefer my kids to know what a condom is, know how to use it; rather than them being thought that sex is wrong. When in fact it's not. Do you realize that the first purpose of marriage was to reproduce? And in my opinion, when you tell a teenager that something is wrong, they're that more likely to go do it.
Side's, us parents CANNOT stop our kids from having sex, unless we follow them around and put a chasity belt on them.

Neapolitan 02-11-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bandteacher1 (Post 825081)
As I parent, I much prefer my kids to know what a condom is, know how to use it; rather than them being thought that sex is wrong. When in fact it's not. Do you realize that the first purpose of marriage was to reproduce? And in my opinion, when you tell a teenager that something is wrong, they're that more likely to go do it.
Side's, us parents CANNOT stop our kids from having sex, unless we follow them around and put a chasity belt on them.

Do you know the meaning of abstinence? Just like Fasting doesn't mean eating is wrong, abstinence doesn't mean sex is wrong. Teaching abistinence is not to tell children that sex is wrong but sex can wait. It is true that a parent can't stop thier child from doing anything but it is the primary duty of the parent build the character of their children.

VEGANGELICA 02-12-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ElephantSack (Post 824023)
"Should abstinence be taught in school?"
Yes, during sexual education, abstinence should be discussed as an option. But without any religious or moral connotation. It's not right to make a young person feel shame and guilt for wanting to act on natural impulses.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 825336)
Just like Fasting doesn't mean eating is wrong, abstinence doesn't mean sex is wrong. Teaching abistinence is not to tell children that sex is wrong but sex can wait. It is true that a parent can't stop thier child from doing anything but it is the primary duty of the parent build the character of their children.

I feel the parent may try to build "character," as the parent defines it, in the child (within limits...depends on the methods and the character they are trying to build), although I don't see that as a primary duty of parenthood.

I view a parent's primary duty, Neapolitan, as loving a child and helping the child understand repercussions of her actions. I don't really feel characters have to be "built" although I do agree with some fundamental concepts like teaching children not to physically hurt or touch others against their will. This is a big part of what I would teach in sex education.

I know I definitely don't want schools to teach children that there is one optimal character they should have with respect to legal sexual activity. (People can't be arrested in the U.S. if they are both 17 or younger and engaged in sexual activity, can they?).

I do feel sex education in schools should inform children that the best way to avoid pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases is to have sex with yourself only :laughing: , while also making sure kids know safer sex methods (condom use, info about sexually transmitted diseases, etc.). I feel the schools should help kids identify and discuss pros and cons that come with decisions about when to be sexually active with other people.

The more honesty about sexual activity and sexual anatomy early on, the better, I feel. I never fear knowledge; I fear lack of knowledge.

Midi 02-12-2010 09:14 AM

After thinking it through, I have to agree with the posters above that abstinence would only draw the idea of promiscuity. However if it were to a public school I wouldn't mind as much as a private counseling it, really, it isn't a big deal.

lucifer_sam 02-12-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 825336)
Do you know the meaning of abstinence? Just like Fasting doesn't mean eating is wrong, abstinence doesn't mean sex is wrong. Teaching abistinence is not to tell children that sex is wrong but sex can wait. It is true that a parent can't stop thier child from doing anything but it is the primary duty of the parent build the character of their children.

Building character has fuck all to do with keeping your kid from having sex. In fact I'd say it predisposes your children into not having the self-confidence required for healthy sexual relationships in later life. If you try to restrict your child's sexual encounters at first, how do you think that will reflect on his or her ability to maintain a healthy sex life later?

ElephantSack 02-15-2010 09:37 PM

In a lot of instances, parents are usually too weirded out to talk to their kids about sex, because it kind of is weird from the kid's standpoint. Just something I reflected on after my first post in here.

Ideally, yes, it would make more sense for the parents to talk to their kids about it, but also, in reality, a parent is just as likely to fuck their kid's head up about it just as much as a teacher.

OceanAndSilence 02-18-2010 06:39 PM

I don't even get this... how can you "teach" abstinence?

ElephantSack 02-19-2010 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OceanAndSilence (Post 828280)
I don't even get this... how can you "teach" abstinence?

Well, in the states, especially in the South, there's a large aversion toward unmarried sex, so there's a movement in politics and education to preach the virtues of abstinence-only sex education in our public schools.

Americans are pretty ****ed in the head on a large-scale basis.

Frownland 02-05-2012 02:20 PM

"Well children, sex is a myth, just like Santa Clause and women pooping."


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